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Kathy Richardson | PentecostalTheology.com
Do u have family members or close friends that you’ve helped & been there for & in return they don’t appreciate a thing u have done for them & are very ungrateful. The minute they don’t need u no more they turn totally against u & lie about u & become ur enemy.
Well I firmly believe everything happens for a reason. For a lesson, to strengthen us or to prepare us for something that is to come.
Well stop for a minute & ask yourself this…
How must our Father feel? After all, He created us, He breathed the breathe of life into our bodies, He sent His Only Begotten Son to be sacrificed as The Perfect Lamb Sacrifice for US so we can have eternal life with Him. What does His children do in return? They turn on Him, they’d rather believe lies than study His Word, they get tied up in the worldly things & ways instead of doing what is right. We ALL need to put Father FIRST.
Proverbs 3:6 In all thy ways acknowledge him; and he shall direct thy paths.
We ALL need to study His Word.
IITimothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Right now that’s the closest we can get to Him. After all, Jesus IS The Living Word!
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Notice the word “Word” is capitalized. The Word was God.
John 1:14 and the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
So u see, Jesus is right here with us in our hearts & in The Word, we are to study His Word so we won’t blindly fall into the ditch. We sure don’t want to be ashamed that we have not read His precious Word when He returns on the 7th Trump (the Last Trump).
Luke 6:39 And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?
ICorinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
Please take great notice that it says AT THE LAST TRUMP. Who are the dead here that is being raised incorruptible? Please don’t be deceived by blind leaders on this subject. Many blind leaders teach that this is the dead bodies of our loved ones raising out of their graves but that is a blatant lie and who is the father of it? John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
You see we have two bodies. Our flesh bodies & our spiritual bodies. Everyone who has already passed on have already changed from their flesh bodies into their spiritual bodies & are with God. We are all going to have to be changed into our spiritual bodies because flesh & blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God.
ICorinthians 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither does corruption inherit incorruption.
ICor 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
ICor 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
ICor 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
ICor 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
We all know that our loved ones that have passed on are with our Father & their flesh bodies are to return to dust never to be used again because that’s what our Father’s Word tells us.
Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
IICor 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
IThes 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that you sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
IThes 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
IThes 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
So u see everyone who has passed on are already with Him. They are already in their spiritual bodies just as He is. There’s nothing we can do to prevent them, they’re already with Him.
IThes 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
IThes 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
{The word “clouds” here is referring to groups of people & the word “air” is referring to our breathe of life bodies or spiritual bodies.) At that time we will ALL be changed into our Spiritual bodies.
So what does our Fathers Word tell us about who the dead in Christ who will rise first (be raised incorruptible) are? Let’s read to find the Truth.
Revelation 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascended out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
Revelation 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
What happened in Sodom? Sodomy. What’s going on in the world today? What will b going on then? Where did the practice of preserving bodies (mummy’s) start? Egypt.
Revelation 11:9 And they of the people and kindred and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and a half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
{Everybody world wide shall see these dead bodies.}
Rev 11:10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwell on the earth.
{Who are the ones rejoicing over their dead bodies? The ones who have believed the lie.} You see the witnesses have studied God’s Word & are witnessing against the great liar & his lie and that’s why he kills them.
Rev 11:11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
Rev 11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud: and their enemies beheld them.
So u see what God’s Word says about who will rise FIRST {be changed incorruptible (spiritual) FIRST}. God’s Word shows us repeatedly that it is the two witnesses that stand against the great lie “rapture theory” that will be raised incorruptible FIRST. Yes, they will lay in the streets for 3 1/2 days but then they will be raised incorruptible FIRST.
Rev 11:13 And The same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
Rev 11:14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
When the seventh angel sounds (the 7th Trump) Jesus returns & reigns for ever & ever.
So u see we are not going to fly away & escape the Great Tribulation. Matter of fact this is what God says about that.
Ezekiel 13:20 Wherefore thus saith The Lord God; Behold I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly.
Ezekiel 13:21 Your kerchiefs also will I tear, and deliver my people out of your hand, and they shall be no more in your hand to be hunted; and ye shall know that I am the Lord.
Ezekiel 13:22 Because with lies ye have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not return from his wicked way, by promising him life:
The fly away doctrine “rapture theory” promises life but it is a lie.
What is the Great Tribulation? It’s the time in which the antichrist (satan) will be here disguised as Jesus. The big question is are u going to fall for satan’s lie or are u going to stand up for God’s Truth? I know what I’m going to do.
Here is a link to the origin of the rapture theory. http://www.angelfire.com/mi/Malkaynu/rapture.html
I pray u will study God’s Word & seek the Truth.
Jo Kelly
There is no “fly away” doctrine as we rise by the power of the Savior, just as he arose. There is no flying necessary and the Ezekiel chapter claimed to teach such is a false idea as nothing refers to flying away to hearn or elsewhere. The harpazo doctrine originated in the Word of God, not England.
Jo Kelly
These posts dening the pre-trib rapture are all alike, they believe the repeated mantra that Scofield, Darby, Edward Irving, a Jesuit Priest, or other characters started it but deny it was taught in the Bible and by the early church. Makes one wonder if these who deny who believe they are taken out first when Jesus returns to eath understand no one is taken out but tares, then,FIRST, and thatbis to destruction!
Sheila Catherine Paula Gauthier
The pre tribulation rapture is not a lie.
Jo Kelly
Jackie D. Suttles…..Jackie, has no one ever helped you understand truth as to the first resurrection of all the blessed and holy dead, in Christ? You claim this false statement, “We all know that our loved ones that have passed on are with our Father & their flesh bodies are to return to dust never to be used again because that’s what our Father’s Word tells us.”.
NO, the Word does not teach this statement above as to the resurrected dead. Do you fail to understand bodies of the dead are like seeds? They do not disappear never to return again, but are changed. We are the same. We are planted in one form, but never again rise in that same type body but in another perfected form, of that old seed body planted into which will arise glorified, perfected, yet look the same and shall be know as they are known.
A seed planted comes out of the ground and is complete in its season. Paul taught it simple enough for a child to understand. If you plant a pumpkin seed, does it still look like the seed you put in the dirt when it rises and is ready to be picked? No, it is what God intended it to become.
This is the principle of our resurrection bodies when we rise in a new and glorifed body, in the adoption of the body and spirit joins the resurrected body in the adoption and redemption of it. It is flesh and blood bodies that do not enter heaven but glorified flesh and bone bodies, as Jesus arose with, and still has WILL enter heaven, if born again. There are not going to be invisible spirits floating around on clouds as imagined by some.
The earthly body of Jesus, son of man, was changed just as ours will be, but looked the same. Paul and Jesus taught truth, and said in ….1 Cor. . 15: 36-37.. That which you sow does not come to life unless it dies; and that which you sow, you do not sow the body which IS TO BE but a bare grain, perhaps of wheat or of something else. “For our citizenship is in heaven, from which also we eagerly wait for a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ; who will transform the body of our humble state into conformity with the body of His glory.”
Romans 8:21-23 speaks of waiting for “the redemption of our bodies” (v. 23). Our bodies are not going to be tossed away to remain as dirt, but will be transformed. They are going to be renewed, restored, and revitalized, just as that of Jesus who left no trace of a body behind on the ledge of the tomb were he was laid.
Blood is the life of a natural physical body that is corruptible. Blood has no need to be in the body of a glorified new type of flesh body and bone that is incorruptable. “Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice, and will come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment” (John 5:28-29).
Even in Job, one of the oldest books of the Bible, he too understood that even though skin worms devoured his body he had lived in while on earth, in his flesh he would stand and see his Redeemer in the last day! That is a belief we all should understand.
Blessings, in He who is the way, Truth, and life, Jo Ann Kelly 2018
Jo Kelly
Kathy Richardson…Did we exist with God before we were born on earth?
By Matt Slick
12/10/08
No. We did not. 1 Cor. 15:46-47 says, “However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural; then the spiritual. 47The first man is from the earth, earthy; the second is man is from heaven”1 The context is dealing with the resurrection of the body. Beginning with verse 35, Paul asks the question “How then are the dead raised?” Then Paul goes on to explain the resurrection of the believer and how the natural body must die before the spiritual one is raised. Paul is simply describing the proper order of existence. First, comes the natural body, then comes the spiritual or the resurrected body. If we lived in a previous existence, then Paul could have said something like, “First comes our spiritual body, then our natural body, then our resurrected body.” 1 Cor. 15:46-47 alone should be sufficient to put the argument to rest.
However, some say that 1 Cor. 15 is dealing with resurrection only and does not preclude a pre-existence. Again, looking at 1 Cor. 15:46-47 we get the answer. Paul does not mention bodies specifically. He mentions the nature of man in the proper order: natural then spiritual. Paul continues on in verses 48-49 to say, As is the earthy, so also are those who are earthy; and as is the heavenly, so also are those who are heavenly. 49And just as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.” Notice that Paul says that we are first born from the earth and second from heaven. Then in verse 49, ¶Paul says the heavenly, spiritual image of man is future, not past. The proper order of existence is the earthy first, the heavenly second. Therefore, it is clear that we have no pre-existence.
Jeremiah 1:5
One verse that is commonly used is Jer. 1:5, “Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you…” But this verse is not talking about pre-existence. It is talking about God’s ordination and appointment of Jeremiah to be a prophet to his nation. Let’s look at the whole verse: “Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I have appointed you a prophet to the nations.”
The Mormons say we preexisted with God, that God and his goddess wife produced offspring who inhabit human bodies at birth. This is a purely Mormon invention and is not found in the Bible. So, they will need to find whatever they can in the Bible to support their false doctrine.
One more point worth looking at is how God uses the word “know.” For example, the Bible says that God only knows believers, not unbelievers. “My sheep hear my voice; I know them, and they follow me” (John 10:27); and “…The Lord knows those who are his,” (2 Tim. 2:19); and, “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven; but he who does the will of My Father who is heaven. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ 23And I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.” (Matt. 7:21-23). Of course, God knows who everyone is, He is omniscient. But God is showing us that when He says He knows us, He is referring to a salvation relationship.
Therefore, we did not preexist. We are born here in this world and will enter the next. Jackie D. Suttles
1. All Bible quotes are from the NASB).
Jo Kelly
Jackie D. Suttles What verse in the Bible teaches the 7th trump of the angel is the last trump of God? There will be trumps through the Millennia, etc, and some
Jo Kelly
Jackie D. Suttles…lYour verses shared use Scriptures that has absolutely nithing to do with flying away or a rapture. Murray thought rapture believers relied on this? What a deception of mind and failure to know the Scriptures actually used! Here is what he belieced as to where our source came from, and falsely taught to follows. Reason? He couldn’t rapture refute actual Scriptures. None of theses are a fly away doctrine for believers. QUOTE…..You say…….So u see we are not going to fly away & escape the Great Tribulation. Matter of fact this is what God says about that. Below is Murray’s great deception calling these fly away doctrines! They were soothsayers and fortune tellers!
Ezekiel 13:20 Wherefore thus saith The Lord God; Behold I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly.
Ezekiel 13:21 Your kerchiefs also will I tear, and deliver my people out of your hand, and they shall be no more in your hand to be hunted; and ye shall know that I am the Lord.
Ezekiel 13:22 Because with lies ye have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not return from his wicked way, by promising him life:
The fly away doctrine “rapture theory” promises life but it is a lie.
Sheila Catherine Paula Gauthier
If a person studied the Bema judgement seat the wedding our glorified bodies when these occur they will realize the rapture happens before the tribulation.
Sheila Catherine Paula Gauthier
The Trump of God in Thessalonians is blown by God for the rapture…the Revelation trumpets are blown by angels.
Jo Kelly
Jackie D. Suttles…Read the last verse you omitted, especially as to what God says…20 Wherefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly.
21 Your kerchiefs also will I tear, and deliver my people out of your hand, and they shall be no more in your hand to be hunted; and ye shall know that I am the Lord.
22 Because with lies ye have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not return from his wicked way, by promising him life:
23 Therefore ye shall see no more vanity, nor divine divinations: for I will deliver my people out of your hand: and ye shall know that I am the Lord.
Rob Waken
God knew before the creation began that Satan and his followers would rebel against Him. He knew man would rebel against Him as well. His plan of salvation is such that all will receive a chance at salvation and it is His will that all repent. Whether they do or not remains to be seen.
Jackie D. Suttles
Resurrection of the Dead
Matthew 22:29-32
[29]Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
[30]For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the ANGELS of God in heaven.
*Angels = Spiritual Bodies
[31]But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,
[32]I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.
*They are not dead. They are still alive in their Spiritual Bodies just like the angels are.
Jackie D. Suttles
Doesn’t get any simpler