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(Note: USA Radio correspondent Jason Wert did not start out doing this story for the network and published it on his personal blog. We reprinted it with his permission. He can be reached at jason@usaradio.com.)
This is a story that I didn’t intend to write. In fact, my entire Saturday was an attempt to explore something for my mom and my aunt. It ended up being a situation where I have no choice but to say I experienced a pure miracle of God. Yes. I, a journalist, a seeker of truth, a debunker of lies, have to admit that I have experienced something of God that I cannot explain in any other way than to say it hits the dictionary definition of a miracle.
Let me start at the beginning.
This is the Bible that flows with oil inside a container at a church in Dawsonville, Georgia.
I took the photo before a service on Saturday October 21, 2017.
Last Thursday my mother sent me a few links to a story that she had been told about by her sister, my aunt. The story was about a Bible that belonged to man in Georgia that in January began to drip oil. The Bible was connected with a group of believers who have a prayer room in the back of a Christian gift shop…and that prayer room was supposed to have oil running down the walls. My mother and my aunt are both believers in God, so they were open to the idea that something like this could happen was not something they would immediately deny. However, they also have seen over the years many different charlatans that try to take advantage of people of faith with scams…like a Bible that drips with oil.
y mom immediately says to her sister…you know, my son the Christian and journalist lives in Nashville which is less than four hours from the church where the Bible is located for revival and healing services. He likes to spend his Saturdays in his Prius driving hundreds of miles to take pictures. He would probably be more than happy to go check this out.
Yes, I am a Christian, as long time readers of this blog know. However, as both a journalist and a Christian, I’m highly bothered by those who try to manipulate the faithful for their personal gain. Those who go out of their way to con people who are seeking God only to find someone taking them for their life’s savings. When I get the chance to expose those people, I leap at it. I’ve had complaints over the years from people who say that I shouldn’t publicly expose frauds because it’s not the Christian thing to do; I counter God put me into the job that He placed me in and gave me the mind that I have for seeing through fakes.
So, with the faith and hope it was real but the knowledge that I could be walking into a con game, I took off Saturday morning (after a very bizarre dream the night before that I will share later) for Douglasville, Georgia to see this Bible that apparently flows with oil.
While I was driving down Interstate 24, music blasting at a notch or two below full volume, I realized that my GPS’s path was going to take me through Dalton, Georgia. Dalton is the home of Grace 251, the gift shop where the healing oil is alleged to flow down the walls of their prayer room. I thought that I might as well stop there and check out the prayer room if they were open on Saturday.
According to Facebook, they were open 10am to 2pm on Saturday.
Facebook lied.
I arrived at the shop to find it dark. I could see the prayer room in the back of the shop but obviously I can’t see within from outside to see if there is oil seeping from the walls.
Disappointed, I thought I’d punch “vinyl records” into my Yelp app to see if there were any stores in Dalton that sell records. (If you aren’t a regular reader, I collect vinyl records.) After a quick glance at the records showed they were horrendously over-priced, I fled back to the parking lot with the intent of heading further south.
Then that little quiet voice in my head. “Call and see if they’re open.”
I called. Susan, the owner, had just opened up the store for a repairman who is fixing their floor. She told me to “come on over.”
I’ll say this: you can feel a peaceful air inside that shop when you walk in. I realized that involuntarily took a huge, deep breath when I walked in. It’s not that it smelled like perfume or candles…but I had that feeling you get when you can finally relax and you take that deep breath to rid yourself of stress. It felt nice.
The entrance to the prayer room at Grace 251.
The shop itself is very interesting. They have a wide variety of hand-made Christian subject paintings and crafts. Plenty of paintings of scriptures with what appears to be reclaimed barnwood used as the frames. More than a few items caught my end and if I actually had that elusive thing called “discretionary income” I would have snatched up a few pieces for my apartment.
In the back of the shop was the prayer room that was the main reason why I stopped at the shop.
Susan (the owner) went in and turned on the lights and invited me to spend as much time in the room as I wished to spend. After a visit to the restroom (hey, I’d been on the road for a few hours, OK?) I examined the walls where I could see oil residue but no actively flowing oil. I squished into the couch in the room (very comfy) and spent some time in prayer.
I’d been praying for about 20 minutes when Susan came in with the man who had been working on the floor of the shop. He had brought his wife into the shop and Susan wanted to share some “God stories.”
She finished over two hours later of stories connected to the shop, the prayer room, the Bible and the oil.
I kept waiting for something that I knew was a crutch for folks who are trying to pull a fast one on believers.
Those things never appeared.
Susan never once tried to sell us something that she had in the store. She said they never charge for the oil and shared stories of times people tried to buy it from her or trade items for it and they refused everything because they felt led to give it away.
She had no personal profit at all for sitting there for two hours telling me stories.
After the repairman and his wife left, Susan and I spent another 45 minutes talking back and forth about me, what I do and what I was doing that day. She was surprised to find out I was a journalist and working for a national radio network, saying that she wouldn’t have wasted hours of my time with all those stories. I laughed and told her those stories were the very reason I had stopped at her shop and that I couldn’t have asked for more from my time at her shop.
Now, as I was preparing to leave and after prayer, she examined the walls for flowing oil. None.
Now, for the sake of full disclosure, Susan did give me a little gift for myself and my two sons as I was leaving the shop. Little knick knacks she said should remind us every time we see them that God is with us and always on our side. These gifts didn’t change my mind about my experience at Grace 251.
I believe her.
The inside of the prayer room with a shot of the really comfy couch.
I walked to my car thinking that despite my not seeing oil flowing down the walls, only seeing trails that were obviously an oil of some kind that had traveled down the walls, I believe Susan’s stories about what took place in that room.
I called my mom after I left to report what I had experienced and most of the stories that Susan had shared with me.
I noted to mom that perhaps God didn’t have the oil flow because I was there as a journalist examining the prayer room. If there was oil that started to flow, well, Mr. Journalist would say “case closed, it’s proven” and there would be no need for myself as Christian to have faith that God was really working inside that little room in Dalton, Georgia.
After a quick pit stop for the men’s room, a sandwich, a Mountain Dew Code Red and some gas for my best mechanical friend, I was off for the church where the flowing Bible was waiting for me.
The trip involved a long series of back roads. Again, to be completely transparent, I was a little bummed out I had to rush to get to the church for service time and wasn’t able to stop and take photos of some of the things I saw along the way. Perhaps a long weekend trip through that part of rural Georgia needs to be added to my To Do List.
I arrived at the church about 20 minutes before the scheduled service time.
I walked in and oddly not a single member of the church greeted me or even smiled in my direction. You would have thought I was invisible (which, given my current I-need-to-lose-100-pounds state, would have been a miracle in itself). I walked down to the front of the church and examined the container that was holding the bible. Thinking that something might happen during the service itself where oil could start flowing (thus the pastor claiming a miracle) I closely examined the container for hidden tubes or any kind of apparatus that could create a “miracle of flowing oil”.
Nothing. It was just your run of the mill Wal*Mart level plastic tub.
So I looked closely at the Bible itself. Remember, this is supposed to have been submerged in oil for the last 9+ months. The pages were not frayed. The cover was still intact and the binding was still obviously solid. It didn’t curl up like a lot of books do when you have them in a liquid for any significant amount of time. I couldn’t explain why the Bible was in such great condition, but as that I don’t have time to put a Bible in a vat of oil for 9 months to compare, I’ll just say it’s unexplainable but I couldn’t really say I debunked anything connected to it.
A letter from a chemist who examined the Bible oil.
Again, for transparency, it bothered me that I sat at the church for 20 minutes before the service started without a single church member greeting me or even acknowledging they had a visitor in their midst. Right before service I shamed a guy into a half-hearted handshake by staring at him until he made eye contact and then sheepishly moved in my direction.
The service also disappointed me as it started. The worship team just appeared to be putting on a show and going through the motions. I wasn’t ready for what happened next.
The evangelist invited in for the special services climbed onto the stage and rebuked the band and the congregation for “going through the motions”. He said people weren’t really worshipping God and they need to get their heads on straight. I wanted to run up and high five the guy.
The band re-started with the worship leader not out front doing his “I’m a worship leader for Hillsong” act but just back with the other singers. While he was doing that, I could feel the Spirit moving strongly through the building. The best way to describe it is that I felt a feeling of electricity flowing as if I was in some kind of convection oven. A cyclical feeling of power moving throughout the room.
And when the worship leader stepped back out and started the stereotypical stage motions…the feeling ended and didn’t come back the rest of the worship.
The evangelist’s message was dead-on and I wished he had been preaching to 1,000 American churches instead of one. The lesson was basically that we need to get out in the world and make a difference rather than hiding inside church walls waiting for the world to come to us. In other words, my view on faith. See a hungry guy? Feed him. See a single mom who can’t pay her electric bill? Pay the bill. Don’t demand they attend your church if you do it. Just see a need, fill a need and reflect Jesus. The evangelist was right on the mark in my opinion.
Then prayer time started with people dipping their fingers in the Bible oil and praying for each other. I could see people who were “slain in the spirit” being slowly lowered to the floor and covered in a sheet. I saw this lovely girl who had Down’s Syndrome being prayed over who was “slain” that laid down on the floor and they covered her up. She laid there looking around at people, clearly aware of what was going on, but just laid there. I couldn’t help but think of my son Eli doing the same thing. I prayed for her and the innocence of her faith. Just her sweet presence touched my heart.
This is the moment where the dream I had the previously suddenly came into clear relief. The dream was me, in a church that looked a LOT like the one I was standing in (which I had never seen before) looking at the Bible in its container. I walked up, placed both hands into the oil and then rubbed it all over my head and neck and arms. Only one dip in the oil; the oil then completely rubbed in like a lotion. In my dream, the moment I finished I woke up. I then remember thinking “that’s weird…but I wonder if I should do that.”
I found myself standing only ten feet from the Bible and oil. No one between me and it. Also, no one doing more than dipping a finger or two into the oil.
It was at that moment the words of Johnny, the evangelist, rang into my head. “My audience is God, not man. I don’t care if you think I’m crazy.”
I said to myself, OK, if this dream was God telling me to do this, I’m going to do it.
So I walked up and I dipped my hands into the oil. Not deeply…I put them in flat, palms down, and just enough that it covered the back of my hands. I pulled them up and watched the excess oil dripping back off into the tub. Again, no one around me, which I kind of thought was weird in that you’d think security would be watching the Bible.
I then rubbed the oil over my head, face, neck and arms like in the dream. Rubbed that stuff in. Rubbed a lot because it was really slick compared to other “prayer oil” I have experienced in my past.
So after I rubbed it in, so that while my skin was oily it wasn’t “wet” or running, I still had a nice glow like I was in some kind of TV commercials for a skin care product. My hair never looked so good. I wiped off my hands, wiped down my hair and head and kept rubbing my arms just out of habit.
It was then I noticed wetness running down my neck.
I reached back and the back of my neck was drenched in oil. I wiped it off, wiped my hands and then began to feel around my head because it seemed very weird to me that I would miss a spot big enough to make my neck that wet.
My hair…nope. My scalp really felt dry to the touch. Face, just oily. Cheeks? No. Rubbed my neck again…nothing new.
Then I touched my ears. The outside of my ears? Just a little oily.
Behind my ears? Sopping wet.
I mean, running down my neck again wet.
These are not my hands because my hands were too slick for my iPhone to work. This is from the shelemah.com blog. However, this is a pretty good representation of my hands after touching my ears.
The only difference is that my hands were DRIPPING with oil.
I put my fingers to the back of my ears and when I pulled them away they were sopping wet and dripping with oil.
I thought it odd…that I had to have missed my ears somehow when wiping off the oil.
So I wiped it off. Wiped off my hands. Wiped off my neck.
Seconds later…running down my neck again.
Put my hands to the back of my ears…dripping wet.
The space behind my earlobe, right at the bottom edge of my ear, was almost running like a fountain of oil. It was running out like an old lamp my grandparents owned in the 1970s/1980s where you would have oil running down little pieces of fishing line to make it look like it was raining.
At this point, I knew something was happening that wasn’t natural. The awe of God doing a miraculous thing to me started to fall on me hard.
Oddly, at the same time, I was hit with another thought: “you wanted a chance to try and debunk this for your mom, your aunt and everyone else. OK Mr. Journalist, debunk it.”
So I ran to the bathroom and grabbed handfuls of paper towels. I scrubbed my hair, my face, my arms, my neck, my ears. You name it, I scrubbed it. Hard. My skin was red. A few scabs came undone and bled a bit. There was absolutely no way that I had any excess oil on my skin in any way after that moment.
And what happened next was something like you see in movies and laugh at because it’s played for comedic effect by a Hollywood that dismisses faith. The moment the last paper towel hit the trash can, I felt oil on my neck. And I put my hands to the back of my ears and the oil was flowing again.
15 minutes.
30 minutes.
45 minutes.
It. Just. Kept. Coming.
I walked around the church just stunned. I kept trying to try to think of ways to disprove what was happening to me because this isn’t logical.
Finally, it was getting close to an hour and I knew I had to get on the road to get home. I don’t mind a drive, but three and a half hours when I was already up for 16 hours was a bit of a daunting prospect for me.
Yet the oil kept on flowing. I stood laughing with a guy in the foyer of the church who said “yeah, that kind of stuff just seems to happen around here.”
I walked to my car, paper towels in hand, and started out for home.
The oil was still flowing when I called my mom and floored her and my dad with the story.
As I drove further away from the church and the Bible, the oil began to slow. Around 30 minutes after I left the church, it had stopped and my ears were just oily like the rest of my head, neck and arms.
Now, for disclosure, I did experience some other things spiritually that I want to keep to myself because they’re personal. If that makes you think less of me, so be it, but I will state they have nothing to do with what I’ve reported to you here in terms of the oil and how it flowed from the back of my ears.
I will add this…my hearing has significantly improved.
I like my loud music. I’m a child of the heavy metal 80s. I’m a drummer. I’ve been in rock bands. My car’s system has a digital output that maxes out at 62 on the volume dial. I usually keep it between 55-60 when I’m out cruising down the highway because as the band Kiss once said, “I love it loud.“
When I turned on my stereo after some phone calls, it HURT.
The volume hurt my ears to the point I had to turn it back off.
The entire way home…with the car window down so the sound of the highway, trucks passing, etc. was filtering in…my stereo couldn’t go above 40 without it beginning to hurt my ears.
That continued this morning on the way to church.
It continued tonight as I drove to a little park area to type up this blog since it was a beautiful fall day and I didn’t want to spend the afternoon/evening inside writing this blog.
So bottom line? I cannot explain what happened to me. All I know is that I experienced it. I tried everything I could think of to debunk what was happening to me. I couldn’t do it.
Why the back of my ears? I don’t know. Why not in the inside of my ears? I don’t know. Why is my hearing more sensitive than before this incident? I don’t know.
All I know is this journalist is still being blown away by what happened and the fact I cannot disprove an incident that the dictionary describes as a “miracle”.
In closing, I know that those of you who completely refuse the idea that God can do something like bring oil from a Bible or multiply healing oil on someone’s skin will likely dismiss this and/or try to impugn my credibility as a journalist. Those who hate God likely will just say I’m some kook pushing a conspiracy theory. That’s fine, I completely understand why you would feel that way. Just know I’m not here to convert you with this story. I’m just reporting what happened to be as honestly and completely as I possibly can do. I did this for my mom and my aunt to put their minds at ease one way or another over the Bible that flows with oil.
And I can say, as a journalist, I experienced the textbook definition of a miracle on Saturday, October 21, 2017, with the oil that flows out of a Bible.
What do you think? Scroll down to comment below.
Varnel Watson
OK now Henry Volk you know you want one. Who has gone to see it yet? Joel Barker Alan Smith Randal W Deese Joseph D. Absher
Joseph D. Absher
Why would God make a Bible so you can’t read it?
Rebecca Peagler
if you watch it on utube you will see the bible and it is in oil and has been in the oil over 18 months and when he opens it up it is so easy to read regardless where he turns and opens it .
becky
Randal W Deese
I prefer mine – drip dry.
Gary
Susan, Everywhere Jesus went, He healed the sick. The Bible says He healed the multitudes, everyone of every sickness and disease. The only ones He didn’t heal are those who rejected Him.
Anonymous
That’s why the Miracle didn’t happen at your house ✝️🙏🏼✝️
Melvin Shomo
I spill coffee on mine does that count ?
Varnel Watson
William DeArteaga are you on your way to prove this a hoax?
Louise Cummings
What did he find out. I’ve heard similar things before. ?
Varnel Watson
We are waiting to let us know of his findings
Varnel Watson
Was able ti visit on Friday and see the Bible. They hold regular services monday night and TU morning with the Bible present Joseph D. Absher
The little gathering in the back of this gift shop was such a sweet place of love and fellowship. Thirty or so people were there praying for one another, giving prophetic words, and sharing testimonies of healing. They are quick to tell you that it is God, not the oil that is healing people, but there are multiple testimonies of how God has used the oil to heal people of cancer, skin rashes, and other diseases. This news article also reports Jerry’s testimony of the oil as it was told to me when I visited.
William DeArteaga I believe you too had something written on cancer prayer and healing but I was not able to find it
Joseph D. Absher
Jesus is still in the miracle business!
Varnel Watson
William DeArteaga should visit and investigate further
William DeArteaga
Interesting…
Varnel Watson
They show it monday nights for prayer and TU morning for pouring the oil
William DeArteaga
I will be going, god willing, to the Norcross event this Sunday. Will you be there?
Varnel Watson
Is it this Sunday? I will have to double check
William DeArteaga
Yes, this Sunday.
Varnel Watson
William DeArteaga Missed to mentioned Journalist Examines a Bible That Flows with Oil and confirms it to be NIV http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/journalist-examines-a-bible-that-flows-with-oil/
mike foley 15 spring street carrollton al 35447
i asked for a vial 12 weeks ago ,i have had back surgery since, have witnessed a man cured of a stroke after we used this oil and laid hands on him,i was told it would take 4 weeks for me to get a vial its been 12, thats ok
Varnel Watson
our deer bro Daniel J Hesse just asked me about this BIBLE we went to see was it last year or so. I have my personal observations and would love to share them with the group with respect to the ministry
Daniel J Hesse
Maybe, it can be tapped and capped.
Varnel Watson
I do believe we might see some really amazing things in THIS LAST DAYS when we realize He has given us all that we need… but is this oil Bible one of them? Terry Wiles Joe Absher
Daniel J Hesse
Who can tell? Is it a wonder?
Larry Dale Steele
I know a guy that went to see this Bible a few weeks ago I haven’t talked with him since he has been back but i did see where he posted that he brought some oil back from it
Jeffry Woolston
I question the legitimacy and what glory God would receive from this?
Patricia Warnock
Jeffrey Woolston…This reminds me of the statue of Mary crying, the “holy laughter”, the “holy running”, the gold “angel dust” that just appeared and other supposed manifestations that come and go. People are excited by some SIGN that God’s powers are real and can be manipulated. Jesus walked the earth and never once held a healing meeting. People keep wanting SIGNS, but Jesus said we have the Bible and don’t need to look for signs. I have God’s Word…I don’t need any other kinds of evidence. This is sensationalism, perhaps by the power of Satan. He uses distractions to set up the world for antichrist!
KS
So the devil glorifies God and directs people’s loving attention to God in order to mislead people? Hmm..
BTW, Jesus healed all of the time. He didn’t advertise “healing” or “revival” meetings because He carried it with him wherever he went.
People will sensationalize things. They’ll try to own or control a supernatural move or event. And when they do, the oil or supernatural event will stop.
Uzzah reached out to steady the Ark and was stopped.
Joe Absher
… if there was ever an object of veneration it’s the Bible.
Louise Cummings
I have heard it talked it talked about on Facebook.
Ron Raylene Raney
Contact information redacted, so, it’s likely not of God, he don’t mind being proven
Gary
I just was there and it is real, please until you know I would be careful of my words!
Varnel Watson
Where did you see that Ron Raylene Raney I met with the people in Dalton last year They were very very nice
Ron Raylene Raney
the copy of the letter was blacked out
Varnel Watson
Ron we cant help that BUT have spoken with Daniel J Hesse to believe it is authentic stuff
Daniel J Hesse
Troy Day please clarify this belief on your part? I am still wondering and curious too.
Daniel J Hesse
The Lord can do as He wills and chooses.
Varnel Watson
what is the problem with the letter being blacked? Ron Raylene Raney
Varnel Watson
Daniel J Hesse well this topic did not pick up as hoped for 🙂
LARRY WHALEY
Were is this place located that has the BIBLE that drips oil I want to go and see it. Is there a a street or road name?
Jeff
If people are so undiscerning that they can’t even read a short article to find the website listed for this “leaky” bible how is anyone expected to realize this is just another in a long line of hoaxes perpetrated on Christians with zero sense of discernment. Zero. You make all Christians look like ignorant bumpkins and hurt the cause of Christ you claim to care so much about. Sad.
Aaron Richards
We have some of the oil from it at my church in Alabama
Joy McCloud
Here is vial of the “oil from the Bible”
In March I attended a prayer service apart from but kind of part of a weekly winter gospel sing in Yuma, Az. My sisters and I sing as a trio and do quite a bit of singing during the winter months when all the snowbirds are here. We sing all the old stuff and they love it.
I don’t for a minute think this oil is coming from the Bible and if it is I don’t think it’s coming from a good place. Nevertheless
out of curiosity I attended, having knowledge of this alleged leaky Bible.
Barbara Fairchild (I Wish I Was a Teddy Bear) was the featured speaker that evening. She has become involved with the originators of this “phenomenon” and publicizes it as she travels sharing her singing ministry. Of great interest to me is the fact that this Bible has not been brought into a church where the oil has been mostly depleted in its container to then see the level of oil rise during said service. As well no overnight video pointed at the container to watch it spontaneously fill up. Why is this?
Barbara Fairchild claims she had 6 viles and put them into a plastic Mickey or Minnie mouse cereal bowl only to find condensation on the viles the next morning. Mine has been sitting on a buffet in my dining room and has not changed since it was handed to me.
Varnel Watson
yes – I got 2; the problem is that it takes longer than 1 service to fill up the tub
Joy McCloud
Troy Day
That is not the point. No matter how long it takes, if you are in a two hour service there should be some noticeable change in the level. Especially if the container has been greatly depleted by vials previous being filled. Even if we agree on your supposition are you telling me that no one handling or directly involved in this oil Bible have not been curious enough to set up a video recorder to actually see this miracle taking place? If this is truly happening and they believe it is this would not show doubt…..only that they want to witness the full extent of the miracle taking place.
What say you?
Varnel Watson
Joy McCloud I dont believe Philip Williams would agree this is a relic like a Catholic one per se
Varnel Watson
Joy McCloud we visited couple years ago when it first came out We even hared some in this group back then There is a lot to discuss Share your experience from your visit with the group
James Michael Sanders
Heard of it, but, can’t understand why God would do such a thing.
Can God do it? Absolutely, but why?
I think we must guard our hearts and realize there are false prophets, liars, and false miracles in the world. That’s doesn’t mean we have less faith. I fully believe in God and His abilities. Yet I know His Word says men’s hearts are wicked also.
This reminds me of the stories of God putting gold in peoples teeth and gold dust in the room.
I know He could, but, why? Never was it recorded in scriptures of it happening. Which I realize God can do more than what’s written in scriptures. I’m just saying I think it’s right to ask for proof and to know the individuals saying these things.
Varnel Watson
heard of God speaking through a donkey – dont get it all Guess we can use whatever media He wants
James Michael Sanders
Troy Day fully agree He can use any source He chooses. ?
Varnel Watson
James Michael Sanders I can post my notes from visiting if you wanna discuss Had a powerful prayer in the place The Bible was brought out of a truck – was to be carried to Canada but there was a problem there – ask me what
James Michael Sanders
Troy Day sure when you have time that’s fine. ?
Joy McCloud
They claim the presence of God is in the container of oil.
Again has anyone seen the Bible produce oil? Has the container been depleted before a church service so in fact the oil would replace while the service was going on. What does the Bible say about those who seek after signs?
Varnel Watson
Joy McCloud have you watched the tub long enough ?
Joy McCloud
Troy Day
What? So you bring the tub into the church and the ministry puts a piece of tape at the oil level. 2 hours later all in attendance can see that oil continues to produce. Or you present video you have taken of the same same scenario again so all in attendance can see this miraculous event happening.
Brett Smith UE
This is the aspect of Pentecostalism that makes me a bit wary of it tbh. This reminds me of Roman Catholic type superstition with crying statues of Mary and whatnot
Varnel Watson
There is some truth in that but how more Calvinism is guilty of theological superstition from the Institutes
James Michael Sanders
Brett Smith UE just remember brother that we are NOT required to embrace or even believe things like this. If it’s not the scripture and the Holy Spirit hasn’t given you some type of witness then there’s nothing wrong with placing something like this on the shelf of (all things are possible, but, I’m not focusing on this.)
Brett Smith UE
Perhaps. I think Christians in general would be wise to skeptical of unwarranted superstition. I have gained a lot of respect for the gifts present in Pentecostal churches, which I do really believe to be present there. I just get turned off when I hear about pentecostal and charismatic preachers selling healing water and stuff like this oil leaking bible. That’s a hurdle I have to get over, I guess. Trying not to see ALL charismatic preachers as representative of the whole movement within the church. There are some real good preachers I’ve seen coming from the Pentecostal movement but then you have the Peter Popoffs and whatnot
Varnel Watson
Brett Smith UE why the harsh tone with the group?
Brett Smith UE
I apologize, I didn’t mean to take a harsh tone, that’s not what I intended. As I said, I believe the gifts present in the Pentecostal church are real and there’s some pentecostal preachers I really respect. But I am skeptical of things like this oil leaking Bible.
Troy Day
Varnel Watson
James Michael Sanders Was able ti visit on a Friday and see the Bible. They hold regular services monday night and TU morning with the Bible present
The little gathering in the back of this gift shop was such a sweet place of love and fellowship. Thirty or so people were there praying for one another, giving prophetic words, and sharing testimonies of healing. They are quick to tell you that it is God, not the oil that is healing people, but there are multiple testimonies of how God has used the oil to heal people of cancer, skin rashes, and other diseases. This news article also reports Jerry’s testimony of the oil as it was told to me when I visited.
I believe William DeArteaga too had something written on cancer prayer and healing but I was not able to find it
The bible was in a tub on the back of small red pick up truck They brought it in for us though it wasnt the right day I thank them for the effort – we saw it Nothing special Red cover Bible in a tub of mineral oil I did not see any exam papers of the oil as the articles show There were markings on the tub showing where the oil grows A trip to Canada was planned – they were gonna fly but without the BIBLE – couldnt put the tub on a plane
I found the last strange Canada is a day away I’ve driven it many times Put it on the truck and let people see it Simple as that This one thing puzzled me among others
Joy McCloud
To anyone commenting on this post. If this were happening with your Bible would you not feel compelled to document the miracle continuing to happen or at least a few times as the depleted oil reproduces?
Varnel Watson
I may feel like buying a new one 🙂 What if it was happening to your BIBLE app on your phone #bummer
Joy McCloud
Troy Day
Not exactly sure why you are avoiding the questions.
Varnel Watson
what is the question? – I dont have all the answers
Eric Jones
There are wonderful things happening around this, as I hear from those who have been. Far too many seek the phenomenon rather than the phenomenal Christ.
Varnel Watson
GOD speaks to us in various media
Varnel Watson
Was able ti visit them while back and see the Bible. They hold regular services monday night and TU morning with the Bible present The little gathering in the back of this gift shop was such a sweet place of love and fellowship. Thirty or so people were there praying for one another, giving prophetic words, and sharing testimonies of healing. They are quick to tell you that it is God, not the oil that is healing people, but there are multiple testimonies of how God has used the oil to heal people of cancer, skin rashes, and other diseases. This news article also reports Jerry’s testimony of the oil as it was told to me when I visited.
William DeArteaga I believe you too had something written on cancer prayer and healing but I was not able to find it You can also go check them out IF another Christian hoax – not far from you
William DeArteaga
Never hada chance to visit this church. But the “fruit” of this phenomenon seems good, so it should be authentically from the Lord.
Varnel Watson
William DeArteaga its in a book store not a church They do take it to some churches upon request but have to drive Cant put the container on an airplane I was told
Jeremiah Würz
In the Book of Acts, Paul’s handkerchief was left behind in one area and passed around by the locals. Healings occurred and demons were cast out just from people touching it.
Simultaneously, our Lord warned about miracles and powers the enemy can do -even to deceive the elect if possible.
His own words, and the writings of Paul and Peter -tell us to see whether the fruits of something are truly of the Holy Spirit (which leads all to love, peace, patience, long suffering, charity..) , or whether the work leads us away from the righteousness of God and obedience to the commandments.
John Duncan
I went handled the Bible was rebaptized and bright home oil.
Varnel Watson
you did all that in one single day journey ?
John Duncan
Troy Day I have been 3x. I went and was baptised with someone famous and got special treatment. Had a private baptism, met with the staff in the meet and greet area.
Varnel Watson
3x is enough right?
John Duncan
Troy Day one is enough.
Louise Cummings
I have heard about it.
Varnel Watson
John Duncan I cannot express with certainty what you or others have experienced I have ONLY visited 1 time and saw the BIBLE in person HOWEVER there is a NUMBER of bloggers out there who blew it out of proportion. There was even some science lab tests that could have been discussed in detail BUT all the buzz made by wanna be reporting bloggers gave no chance to reason and science Certainly NO chance to real Pentecostal spirituality There were and still are new age seekers, church science and other cult groups whose write ups circulate on the internet and give no chance to the real miracle to be manifested and reasoned upon William DeArteaga has long called out such non-Christian hoax and fake news to repent They give NO credit to the GOD of Christianity and simply mooch on such “news” with their blog ads making money of the faith of real believers Its real shame but what can we do?
John Duncan
Troy Day I was extremely blessed there. I am friends with the pastor Todd Smith and one of the evangelist Pat Shatzline. The sprit touched me there so wonderfully I could not stand in the Baptismal. I wept as I saw a very famous celebrity confessing sin in the baptismal with me. All the preaching was basic gospel stuff. They prayed and fasted and God broke through and many are coming to Christ with signs and wonders.
Varnel Watson
John Duncan We had a great prayer time – that much I remember I will have to visit again and see it
Varnel Watson
RT William DeArteaga Yes, I went to a nearby church that hosted its pastor and I got some oil. No noticeable healing effect.
John Duncan
It is a rather calm service compared to what Brownsville was. There was not a heavy emphasis on repentance that I experienced at Brownsville. Not sure I or even pastor Todd Smith would claim it is a revival? There is a great sense of the presence of God and an anointing on the baptismal service. First time I went and was baptized people were amazingly joyous and gentle. Second time I went and was baptized I was invited on stage and held the Bible that was producing oil. The highlighted pages were not smeared nor was the Bible swelled. The Oils began to spot on Psalms 39 (for the 39 stripes). Then the oil spread through to revelation then the rest of the Bible. It has been immersed in oil for over two years. It is said to produce enough oil to cause the container to rise in it’s supply of oil during services. Several of us had our hands on the Bible while Billy Humphy (Atlanta IHOP pastor) suddenly pulled his hands from the top of the stacked hands saying his hands were wet with oil (if I understood the event accurately). One staff person told me his vile of oil was emptied and then filled up with oil on its own. I just enjoyed the times I have been there. We stayed in the parking lot in our motor home and enjoyed soaking in the presence of God and praying with a sweet presence. I returned to the church I pastor and we happened to have a baptismal service where a few were slain in the Spirit in the Baptismal pool. I received a powerful personal prophecy while being baptized (2nd x) and I began to jerk and kick then I was slain into the water and cradled by a member of the services and held with others who were out in the Spirit. Pastor Todd highly encourages ministers to “just get in the pool.” I brought some ministers from Cho’s (South Korea) church who refused to be rebaptized.
Varnel Watson
John Duncan you were @ Brownsville ? was it a fake? Peter Vandever
Peter Vandever
Troy Day Not at all. I was saved there.
Varnel Watson
Peter Vandever the point that raised my question and many more about Todd Bentley and M Brown http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/a-biblical-critique-of-brownsville-assembly-of-god-deliverance-manual/
John Duncan
Troy Day I had a life changing powerful experience there. The revival was basic worship and repentance messages. Many believers repenting of sin. I think the revival was awesome but then they deluded it with inviting others in without a victory over sin theology. It was much more powerful, intense and get right with God NOW kind of a thing. I was A/G at the time and was prayed for by all the leaders the several times I attended. I have not experienced anything so real and powerful since. Michael Brown, Steve Hill and John K are or were examples of modern balanced Spirit filled men of God. It was a powerful revival until they tried to incorporate others without the same emphasis. I went there and came back to Auburn Alabama and revival broke out there for three months where the pastor Mike and myself preached nightly and people were saved born again rededicated every night. Then I went to Leander Texas were another evangelist and I carried on revival meetings for nine months of nightly meetings. It was a real revival for about two months. Then we kept going. We should have stopped. The leadership got messed up.
Varnel Watson
a board viewer by the name of KS left the following comment on the website
So the devil glorifies God and directs people’s loving attention to God in order to mislead people? Hmm..
BTW, Jesus healed all of the time. He didn’t advertise “healing” or “revival” meetings because He carried it with him wherever he went.
People will sensationalize things. They’ll try to own or control a supernatural move or event. And when they do, the oil or supernatural event will stop.
Uzzah reached out to steady the Ark and was stopped.
jerry and johny we share great cogop friends together and have for so many years In the prev. comments I have shred about about visits there and the GREAT prayer we had together but also the great doubt in a Christian hoax Ray E Horton William DeArteaga
when we visited last year Daniel J Hesse just asked me about this BIBLE we went to see was. I had my personal observations and would love to share them I do believe we might see some really amazing things in THIS LAST DAYS when we realize He has given us all that we need… but is this oil Bible one of them?
They hold regular services monday night and TU morning with the Bible present the problem is that it takes longer than 1 service to fill up the tub When we last visited they had service but the BIBLE was under heavy security and we were barely allowed to see it again – not so the first time Something was wrong write then
HOWEVER there is a NUMBER of bloggers out there who blew it out of proportion. There was even some science lab tests that could have been discussed in detail BUT all the buzz made by wanna be reporting bloggers gave no chance to reason and science Certainly NO chance to real Pentecostal spirituality There were and still are new age seekers, church science and other cult groups whose write ups circulate on the internet and give no chance to the real miracle to be manifested and reasoned upon non-Christian hoax and fake news to repent They give NO credit to the GOD of Christianity and simply mooch on such “news” with their blog ads making money of the faith of real believers Its real shame but what can we do?
As soon as we posted this someone claiming to be an Inner Healing Practitioner – whatever that is said J.D. King has told them to contact us about the oil leaking BIBLE Made no sense so we looked closer into it – this was last december I think The services stopped and they announced the BIBLE was making NO more oil in a few short days What it was the local Tractor Supply was selling them gallons of mineral oils for refills Chatt FREE PRESS has called for investigation and took them a while to catch up and print a few weeks back THEN we called the discussion with Isara Mo on anointing oil placed on heads and someone called it new age – I believe this oil dripping hoax might be related to new age as well
http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/chattanooga-free-press-debunks-flowing-oil-dripping-bible-of-dalton/