life March 9, 2019 What will be the next big charismatic fad? Posted by in Facebook's Pentecostal Theology Group View the Original Post Previous articleIs a theophany God or not? Next articleWhen was the last time you had a foot washing service? 22 Comments Reply March 9, 2019 Joe Absher How many would carry a wooden cross if they had the chance? Reply March 9, 2019 Troy Day too many to count if it has wheals Reply March 9, 2019 Daniel J Hesse Synchronized worship swimmers in the extended baptistry! Could cause a great splash. Reply March 9, 2019 Troy Day GOD forbid !!! Reply March 9, 2019 Daniel J Hesse Troy Day you should see steam on the water and multicolored lights with the strobe ball over it! Reply March 9, 2019 Troy Day thanks but no thanks – I like the Glory better Reply March 9, 2019 Troy Day Of the five U.S. denominations that have the largest Latino presence, in four of them Latinos are at least 20 percent of the membership: Assemblies of God, Seventh-Day Adventist, Church of God, and Apostolic Assembly. Reply March 10, 2019 Link Hudson Telling people to get saved by asking Jesus to be their best friend. I thought that before then I saw it. Or telling people to get saved by pretending to give Jesus a pretend air high five. Reply March 10, 2019 Troy Day how else have you asked people to get saved except through the Sinners Prayer? what is another way? Reply March 11, 2019 Link Hudson Troy Day Just to make sure we are on the saved page, do you agree with me that people can be saved without repeating a prayer after the preacher? You agree with me that Christians before 1900, the apostles, the Christians in the Bible, etc. could all be saved, right? The sinner’s prayer, some versions of it at least, are an attempt to get people to confess and believe according to Romans 10:9-10. One of my concerns is that it seems like a lot of evangelicals have gotten the idea that repeating a ‘sinner’s prayer’ after the preacher is what saved…the tradition we have that isn’t specifically Biblical..leaving out the Gospel part which actually saves if people believe it. So you see preachers having people repeat prayers without explaining who Jesus is, that He died on the cross, the cross was about, or the fact that God raised Him from the dead. I see the ‘sinner’s prayer’ as ____A_____way of doing things. But without the gospel it is a rather empty ritual, or at least does not do what it is supposed to do. Sometimes evangelicals do not make sense. They think the people who go to the traditional churches that repeat the apostle’s creed– which explains the Gospel– are not saved unless they go to their own kind of church after their preacher who does not explain or proclaim the Gospel. Not always. Many preachers do preach the Gospel. And neither creed nor prayer saves without faith. As far as other ways to do it, how about have people profess their fath, confess Jesus as Lord, and then baptize them. I am not opposed to ‘the sinner’s prayer.’ I am opposed to doing that and declaring people saved without the Gospel. I have led people to confess by repeating a prayer and be baptized. And I don’t know how many people I’ve asked to repeat a prayer, especially before I got clarity on the issue, but what I was trained to do was more scripture based than what I see in some churches today. Reply March 11, 2019 Troy Day pls answer the question how else have you asked people to get saved except through the Sinners Prayer? Reply March 12, 2019 Link Hudson Troy Day I have encouraged people to believe the gospeland to be baptized. I did not do that in an ‘altar call’ situation though. Reply March 12, 2019 Troy Day Thats good Link but no need to tag me Just answer the question how else have you asked people to get saved except through the Sinners Prayer? Reply March 15, 2019 Neil Short He answered twice: faith->confession (Jesus is lord)->baptism. Reply March 12, 2019 Larry Dale Steele How many people do you think say the prayer and not born again Reply March 12, 2019 Troy Day that’s a good question for Link Hudson I’ve stated on many occasions that the sinners prayer debate as proposed by Paul Washer is simply irrelevant to Pentecostal soteriology Reply March 12, 2019 Link Hudson Troy Day lots of A/Gs and Foursquare preachers do the sinners prayer ritual. Reply March 12, 2019 Larry Dale Steele I believe a lot of people are saved when they pray the prayer but I believe a lot of people just say they he prayer and that aren’t sincere and think just because they said it Reply March 12, 2019 Link Hudson It is just like repeating the apostle’s creed or kids breaking into the church and filling the baptistry just to go swimming. If you do not have faith it does not have the same effect. Of course the problem with a lot of sinners prayers is they are not preceeded by preaching on how to get saved and the prayer sometimes doesnot mention the cross or resurrection. A tool to confess faith according to Romans 10 has turned into a ritual without scripture or gospel behind it in many cases. I call it easy repeatism. Easy believism implies there is something preached to believe. Reply March 12, 2019 Troy Day Link you confuse preachers with theology Reply March 13, 2019 Link Hudson There is the actual theology that makes it to the pulpit too. Reply March 12, 2019 Ray E Horton Hopefully none! We don’t need fads, but that which is lasting to bear fruit and change lives. With the Holy Spirit, what more would one need. People who aren’t grounded in the Word and their faith are still needy, and are the ones who usually follow after fads. Leave a Reply Click here to cancel reply. Cancel reply Comment Name Email Website This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.