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“Ambrose on Regeneration”
Neither baptism nor decisions have to do with regeneration
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Varnel Watson
tell us Tim Dalton what is it? tell us ALL about it
Varnel Watson
its a work of grace as it all Charles Page
Wayne Scott
Yes, Troy Day. Salvation is by God’s saving grace as described by Paul in Titus 2:11-14 as the HS delivered teaching of Christ which he also said we can receive in vain by not obeying.
Varnel Watson
and what would be regeneration then?
Wayne Scott
this is the only biblical saving grace of God and is what Pelagius defended against the heresy of Augustine’s Gnosticism.
Wayne Scott
Nothing happens before we respond to God’s revelation and call to repentance. Regeneration is being filled with Wisdom (the Spirit). And Solomon said the fear of the Lord (which he defined as shunning evil) is the beginning of Wisdom.
Wayne Scott
My terminology comes from reading the preNicene fathers on this subject.
Wayne Scott
They reserved the term “only begotten Son of God” for Prov Wisdom.
Wayne Scott
…who claims twice in Prov 8 to be begotten of God before creation.
Wayne Scott
They had a much better understanding of “Jesus Christ; the same yesterday, today, and forever” than Reformers do.
Wayne Scott
They were not dispensationalists. They considered Abraham to be a Christian.
Kelly Crites
Regeneration is something that is accomplished by God. A dead man cannot raise himself from the dead.
Charles Page
nothing man does -it is all of God from above!!
Kelly Crites
Charles Page amen my brother!
Kelly Crites
Charles Page Dead men do not cooperate with Grace. Unless regeneration takes place first, there is no possibility of faith.
Kelly Crites
Charles Page Ezekiel 36:26-27
Lyndsey Dunn
You can’t raise yourself from the dead, but God can’t raise you from the dead until you put your flesh to death. We don’t believe in mysticism we believe in the power of the Holy Spirit to empower us to overcome our sin through Jesus, that God might be exalted. If salvation is by faith alone, that’s fine, as long as you understand faith is by action alone. Jesus put himself on that cross and so must you. Our Father will take care of the rest. Too many “Christians” soak in their dead faith, mysticism, and magic-spell-prayers waiting for God to make them new. They even go through baptism without seeing the correlations and participatory journey. We even proclaim the Lord’s death in communion and don’t realize what it means to proclaim our own. Do your part, and then you can be born again, be born of the Spirit, and be a new person by the grace of God, which not only shows us favor unto salvation but empowerment for this life as a new creation dead to sin but alive in Christ.
Kelly Crites
Lyndsey Dunn I agree with all of that except for the “God can’t” part. Well said though.
This would describe an atonement that has limited value. It wouldnt cover the sin of unbelief. If Jesus died for all the sins of all men, if he expiated all of our sins and propitiate all our sins then everybody would be saved. And a potential atonement is not a real atonement. Jesus REALLY atoned for the sins of his sheep. He didn’t just come to make men savable he came to save. He really does seek and save the lost. He is the one seeking we are the ones running. And he is not limited by man’s freedom. I mean what can a dead man do? How can a dead man put his flesh to death enough to finally please God? Romans 8 tells us that (whoever is led by the flesh “cannot” please God.) And if you are led by the flesh it is because you do not have the spirit of God living in you. If our salvation depends upon our performance and our cooperation then we are doomed. He is not the responder he is the initiator. He is the author and perfecter of our faith. You are able to put your flesh to death only because he gives you a new heart to be able to do so.
Lyndsey Dunn
You only receive a new heart after the old one is gone. But your spirit is tied to that flesh everyday until His return. That’s why you need to be filled with his Spirit to have power to overcome. Believing in Jesus doesn’t save you, even Satan believes. You aren’t forced to believe and accept the free gift. Have you made him lord over your life today and everyday? Do you know him? Are you a disciple? Do you take up your cross and put your flesh to death everyday and follow him (Lk 9:23)? Those are questions we hear little from our pulpits. Obiedience is not carried out on our behalf. We have some work to do. Cheap grace is a false soap that makes best a slippery sloap!
Kelly Crites
Lyndsey Dunn yes cheap grace is heresy. But I do believe in a powerful saving Grace. A Grace that truly saves and changes hearts. And yeah you’re right the demons also believe. And they tremble with fear. Do we tremble with fear? Just by saying we believe puts us on par with the demons. We are no better than they are at that point. But they refuse to change their lives and follow Christ. What is our response to the gospel? Thanks for the conversation Lyndsey. ☺ I admire your focus on Christ. ?
Varnel Watson
Wayne Scott said
Regeneration is being filled with Wisdom (the Spirit).
2-3 Bible verses for that pls Charles Page Link Hudson