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ORDO SALUTIS according to Link Hudson
“(1) Preach and teach the Gospel so that people understand it.
(2) When they recieve [sic] the message, let them confess their faith and baptize them with water.
(3) Lay hands on them to be filled with the Spirit.
(4) After they have been baptized in water (whether by our own group or other believers) we accept them into fellowship and they can partake of communion with us.”
Charles Page [11/05/2015 5:56 PM]
isn’t that CoG polity?
Link Hudson [11/05/2015 6:19 PM]
That’s the order in Acts 2. The Holy Ghost can change the order like he did in Acts 10. Peter’s response was ‘who can forbid water?”
Charles Page, the OP is a summary of something I wrote in another thread.
Christopher Hart [11/05/2015 6:31 PM]
Haven’t seen the other discussion, but taken as stated above, I would agree with that.
John Kissinger [11/05/2015 6:52 PM]
do we just assume the initial evidence as speaking in tongues? Christopher Hart
Charles Page [11/05/2015 6:54 PM]
Link Hudson, how (when) does one become regenerate in this order of salutis? if people fail to understand it or if the directions are unbiblical can they still be born again? there is closed communion? no that is pre-regenerate activity performed by God. He quickens the dead body to newness of life.
John Kissinger [11/05/2015 7:19 PM]
New birth is not done with a hook but through the gentle hands of the #CREATOR
Charles Page [11/05/2015 7:22 PM]
New birth is not done with a hook but through the gentle hands of the Holy Baptizer!! cleansing water of regeneration
Henry Volk [11/05/2015 7:37 PM]
A very odd ordo salutis indeed.
John Kissinger [11/05/2015 7:44 PM]
I think Link has done a good framework – missing a few details
Henry Volk [11/05/2015 7:51 PM]
No, I mean the picture.
John Kissinger [11/05/2015 7:52 PM]
you dont like Pilgrim’s Progress?
Varnel Watson
Henry Volk Found this great discussion on Pentecostal ordo salustis which shows Link Hudson has historical followed ORDO SALUTIS BAPTICOSTALIS 🙂
Link Hudson
You are misrepresenting my views. I do not say someone has to have hands laid on him, for example, to be saved.
Link Hudson
I don’t think anyone really understands what the words ‘Baptiscostal’ or ‘Baptiscostolis’ when Troy Day uses them except for Troy Day, if he even understands it.
“Shaka, when the walls fell.”
Varnel Watson
Link Hudson The term is actually BAPTICOSTALIS, And yes it seems like you like a clear understanding of Pentecostal theology too What else is out there for you?
Link Hudson
You’I don’t know what you are asking.
Varnel Watson
How so? All your words presented as a quote in the appropriate styling. No editing of your quote whatsoever and you confirm in the comment section that that’s is exactly what you said… ?
Link Hudson
Look up ‘ordo salutis’. I don’t say that you have to have hands laid on you, for example, to be saved.
Varnel Watson
OK Link did you not write this yourself?
“(1) Preach and teach the Gospel so that people understand it.
(2) When they recieve [sic] the message, let them confess their faith and baptize them with water.
(3) Lay hands on them to be filled with the Spirit.
(4) After they have been baptized in water (whether by our own group or other believers) we accept them into fellowship and they can partake of communion with us.”
Link Hudson
I didn’t say that this was ordo salutis.
Varnel Watson
Did you not then confirm Link Hudson on 11/05/2015 6:19 PM that “That’s the order in Acts 2. The Holy Ghost can change the order like he did in Acts 10. Peter’s response was ‘who can forbid water?”
Link Hudson
Troy Day, I didn’t say if no one lays hands on you and you get hit by a bus, you go to Hell. Doesn’t ordo salutis have to do with salvation?
Varnel Watson
Hey Link Of course you have the right to change your mind on what ever you believe AS long as we agree that you wrote that and not some one else.
Varnel Watson
John Duncan @Isara Mo This is the Pentecostal Ordo Salutis ie Full Gospel http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/pentecostal-detective-five-fold-gospel/
Varnel Watson
yeah I dont buy this one either Charles Page have you noticed HOW NAR changes ordo solutis into more baptist one?
Charles Page
Troy Day that OS was the order taught by Bowdle and not as COG declaration
Subsequent sanctification is a departure from a Baptist confession
Varnel Watson
Charles Page do you agree to this OS here?
Charles Page
heaven’s no, Troy Day!!!
Charles Page
it is classic decisional regeneration ordo salutis. Clearly works precede regeneration in this OS of the OP!
Charles Page
Troy Day