IS THERE a distinction between Israel and the Church
and if so what is it?
Ricky Grimsley [01/30/2016 9:06 AM]
I think romans 11 explains that we are not israel. We are all different branches with the same “root”
John Kissinger [01/30/2016 9:11 AM]
Stan Wayne [01/30/2016 9:48 AM]
Basic Grammatical Historical Interpretation of scripture yields an Israel that was the people of God who had unconditional physical land, Kingdom and monarch promises.
When the majority rejected their King the people of God became the body of Christ composed of Jews and Gentiles.
However unbelieving Israel with land, kingdom and future king and future expectation of coming to belief in the Land persists.
Israel has land – the Church has no land.
Stan Wayne [01/30/2016 10:00 AM]
“Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. And in this way all Israel will be saved, as it is written, “The Deliverer will come from Zion, he will banish ungodliness from Jacob”; “and this will be my covenant with them when I take away their sins.” As regards the gospel, they are enemies for your sake. But as regards election, they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers. For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.”
Romans 11:25-29 ESV
Ricky Grimsley [01/30/2016 10:01 AM]
I personally believe now that the opposite is true. Blindness is coming on the gentiles that israel can be saved.
Stan Wayne [01/30/2016 10:13 AM]
“And I will establish my covenant between me and you and your offspring after you throughout their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and to your offspring after you. And I will give to you and to your offspring after you the land of your sojournings, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession, and I will be their God.””
Genesis 17:7-8 ESV