Is there Spiritual Significance in Trump’s Supreme Court Pick?

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We are in the midst of a historic moment for our country.

From the moment that Justice Anthony Kennedy announced his retirement from the Supreme Court, every news broadcast in America has been filled with questions about who his replacement will be.

 Two thousand years ago, the world deserved condemnation, judgment and everlasting destruction, but instead, God gave them—and us—a Savior.

Paul spoke to this when he wrote the book of Romans and penned these words that came right from the heart of God our Father. “Who is he who condemns? [does the work of a judge]? It is Christ who died, yes, who is risen, who is also at the right hand of God, who also intercedes for us” (Rom. 8:34).

History demonstrates that God often uses opposing concepts to highlight His magnificent love and power.

  • When a nation wanted a king, our God gave us a servant.
  • When people wanted a warrior, instead God gave us His child.
  • Humanity wanted a champion, but God gave us the cross.
  • We want titles, and God gives a testimony.

Does our society—in a nation that boasts multiple superstar judges, like Judge Judy, Judge Wapner and Judge Joe Brown, to name a few recognizable figures—really need more judgment than there already is, or do we just need more of the Spirit of the Savior? After all, it’s easy to judge, but it’s better to love.

167 Comments

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 17, 2018

    Troy Day

    Joseph Kidwell surprised this post has not picked up just yet Scotty Searan What is he trying to do? reverse the gay marriage decision Terry Wiles

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 18, 2018

    Troy Day

    I think there is much of spiritual significance Terry Wiles but will he reverse the bathroom issue and Target?

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 18, 2018

    Troy Day

    Scotty Searan will he reverse the gay marriage law?

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 18, 2018

    Troy Day

    Not to get political Joe Absher but will this lift the ban on the gay conversion practice?

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 18, 2018

    Troy Day

    so many questions Joseph Kidwell so few answers

  • Joe Absher
    Reply July 18, 2018

    Joe Absher

    Mr Day I hope you will forgve me but I don’t think they will be overturning roe v. wade or immorality any time soon. Not adultery or pharmikia or hate or racism or unforgiveness. Not murder in the first degree not even negligent homicide. I do pray God will raise up some daniels. But our only hope is the promise of God to turn the hearts of the father’s to the children and the hearts of the children to the father’s. May God have mercy on us and help us.

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 18, 2018

      Troy Day

      Roe v. Wade is a 1973 landmark decision I am talking about recent judicial changes that Trump promised to reverse

    • Joe Absher
      Reply July 18, 2018

      Joe Absher

      Figures

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 18, 2018

    Troy Day

    Donald Phillips I think President Trump’s visit to Europe was prophetic one. They called him the Trump Tornado and the Little Horn Joseph Kidwell Link Hudson Scotty Searan Ricky Grimsley

    • Terry Wiles
      Reply July 18, 2018

      Terry Wiles

      There is a little horn but many other candidates that are in front of Trump.

  • Joe Absher
    Reply July 18, 2018

    Joe Absher

    Have you had one picture of the president that has not demonized him? What’s with cold war Soviet red background?

  • Ricky Grimsley
    Reply July 18, 2018

    Ricky Grimsley

    Trump really stunk it up this time. He needs to get a clue. Big ole blunder this time. He could have told Putin privately what he thought. The saying he misspoke made look him weak.

    • Joseph Kidwell
      Reply July 18, 2018

      Joseph Kidwell

      He is weak, but even more concerning is the fact that Putin obviously has something on him.

    • Ricky Grimsley
      Reply July 18, 2018

      Ricky Grimsley

      Lol he has something on them all. Surely you don’t believe Hillary was innocent either.

    • Joseph Kidwell
      Reply July 18, 2018

      Joseph Kidwell

      Smh…why whenever someone points out Trump’s behavior, do his followers never fail to bring up Hillary or Obama? Because that’s what their leader does! Well, Hiilary did not sell out America @ Helsinki! At Helsinki, before the world, it was revealed that the emperor has no clothes.

    • Ricky Grimsley
      Reply July 19, 2018

      Ricky Grimsley

      Lol are you retarded? She should 1/3 of our uranium to Russia.

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 19, 2018

      Troy Day

      Major failure in the Putin meeting. Allowed Russia to dominate again

    • Joseph Kidwell
      Reply July 19, 2018

      Joseph Kidwell

      Ricky Grimsley if I am, at least I’m not a Trumptard. One can’t be any dumber than that.😉

  • Donald Phillips
    Reply July 18, 2018

    Donald Phillips

    Obama’s picture is found in the dictionary under the word coward.
    OTOH, Trump imposed strong sanctions on Russian organizations and individuals tied to malicious cyber-attacks against the U.S. These sanctions are part of a broader effort to address ongoing nefarious attacks emanating from Russia. Last year, President Trump signed legislation imposing punitive sanctions on Russia for belligerent activities including human rights abuses, and evasion of existing sanctions. Throughout 2017, President Trump worked to punish Russia for its belligerent behavior in Ukraine. BARAK OBAMA NEVER DID THIS
    President Trump sanctioned more than three dozen organizations and individuals involved in the Russian incursion into Ukraine. Trump approved the largest sale of lethal defense weapons to Ukrainian forces in years in a move widely praised by U.S. and Ukrainian officials.
    In response to Russia’s retaliation over U.S. sanctions, the Trump administration ordered Russia to close its consulate in San Francisco and two diplomatic annexes in New York and Washington. The Trump administration has condemned Russian leaders for violations of human rights, and strongly condemned Russia for an attempted assassination in the U.K., calling the action an “assault on U.K. sovereignty” and a “clear violation” of international law. President Trump has taken concrete actions to bolster the NATO alliance against Russian influence.
    The Trump administration has increased training and drills with U.S. NATO partners. In 2018, the Department of Defense plans to increase European Deterrence Initiative spending by $1.4 billion dollars.
    NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said European members and Canada, amid pressure from President Trump, spent 5% more on defense last year compared to 2016.

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 20, 2018

      Troy Day

      Trump just backed Russia in the investigation
      What news are you watching?

  • Joseph Kidwell
    Reply July 18, 2018

    Joseph Kidwell

    Anything that Trump has done has been forced on him by Congress.

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 19, 2018

    Troy Day

    I dont know about that Joseph Kidwell Muller is still at work Will there be any judgment to reverse? Scotty Searan

  • Scotty Searan
    Reply July 19, 2018

    Scotty Searan

    No President has ever been perfect.
    This immigration crises initially goes back to Ronald Reagan for not enforcing the law on illegals and giving amnesty
    It is all about cheap labor. On both sides. Democrats and Republicans
    The politicians are in it only for themselves in the long run
    We have a city administrator get a $35,000 per year raise from $115,000 to $150,000. That’s a 30.4% raise.
    Social Security recipients went two years with out a raise, and when they got one it was 2%. And it was taken with insurance hikes.
    They say the avg. SS recipient makes $1200 per month
    I am above average $2,000 thankful that i had a better paying job through the years.
    I know these politicians in my city have no effect on SS but they all have the same mindset.
    When they are dishing out they act like there pockets are shallow, but when the are bringing it in they have deep pockets.

  • Scotty Searan
    Reply July 19, 2018

    Scotty Searan

  • Gene Brown
    Reply July 19, 2018

    Gene Brown

    I think absolutley!!!!

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 19, 2018

    Troy Day

    but how? Gene Brown Bob Wizenhut Joseph Kidwell

    • Gene Brown
      Reply July 19, 2018

      Gene Brown

      Our lord God can use anything or anyone he chooses!

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 19, 2018

      Troy Day

      like what in this context?

    • Gene Brown
      Reply July 19, 2018

      Gene Brown

      Troy Day God can use Donald trump to change the direction of this country from self destruction in liberalism, and back to the guidelines of or forefathers!

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 19, 2018

      Troy Day

      He can but will He ?

    • Gene Brown
      Reply July 19, 2018

      Gene Brown

      Troy Day do you believe in God? if so, why would you doubt?

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 19, 2018

      Troy Day

      Jesus did not believe in men

    • Gene Brown
      Reply July 19, 2018

      Gene Brown

      Jesus believed in mankind enough to give his life for you, me, and everyone else. do you believe?

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 19, 2018

      Troy Day

      We all believe! What’s yor point per OP?

    • Gene Brown
      Reply July 19, 2018

      Gene Brown

      Jesus does believe in mankind.

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 20, 2018

    Troy Day

    Gene Brown Bob Wizenhut not much Christian response on this issue What are we hoping for here? Judgment overturns?

    • Gene Brown
      Reply July 20, 2018

      Gene Brown

      We can’t overturn judgement. would love to see the churches growing, and prospering. I know end times are coming.

  • Bob Wizenhut
    Reply July 20, 2018

    Bob Wizenhut

    Is this a historic moment for our country? Yes. Do most Christians realize that? Yes. I think most Christians are just hoping for a return to the rule of law that will help preserve our union for an additional decade or two before judgment comes.

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 20, 2018

    Troy Day

    Helsinki was more of a historic moment for Russia
    Back to you Bob

  • Bob Wizenhut
    Reply July 20, 2018

    Bob Wizenhut

    Troy Day – sorry, haven’t been following Helsinki so much. What made it so historic for Russia? There is no denying that the number of judges being appointed by President Trump already makes him the most impactfull President in a generation. And there is a strong chance he will get a third Supreme Court placement before his 2nd term is up.

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 20, 2018

    Troy Day

    Bob Wizenhut perhaps you should revisit Helsinki then?
    George Washington made 11 appointments to the court
    Franklin Roosevelt made 9

    • Scotty Searan
      Reply July 21, 2018

      Scotty Searan

      George Washington the first President so it stands to reason he would be the Father of the initial Supreme Court.
      Franklin Roosevelt also tried to put limits on how long the SS Justices should serve.
      He also wanted to have more than 9 Justices. Both measures failed
      Franklin Roosevelt New Deal and it’s progressiveness nature has proven detrimental to this country in the long run, leading up to the entitlement nature of our country. Also making it appear that the federal government has the answer.

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 21, 2018

      Troy Day

      All were good masons Scotty Searan

    • Scotty Searan
      Reply July 21, 2018

      Scotty Searan

      Troy Day I do have a problem with a person being a Mason.
      My sons are both Mason’s. With which I am displeased.

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 21, 2018

      Troy Day

      It’s a bad situation in the South – deeply spiritual

  • Bob Wizenhut
    Reply July 20, 2018

    Bob Wizenhut

    Troy Day – OK, maybe I misspoke. President Trump’s judicial appointments make him the most impactfull President in 2 generations. And what is so striking is that President Trump has done it in 22 months where had 16 years. We’ve not seen anything like this in recent history. I know what you are going to say. You are going to say, “it’s not the man but God’s hand working through the man”. OK, Troy, I’ll agree with you on that one. Gene Brown

  • Hugh Lowrie
    Reply July 20, 2018

    Hugh Lowrie

    What is wrong, anyway, with President Trump being tough on Russia?

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 21, 2018

    Troy Day

    Bob Wizenhut Helsinki was a major fail. How can we be sure the justice pick was not? Hugh did you follow Helsinki? – Trump was soft on Russia. Major fail. Trump claimed Russia has no fault WHILE ALL major US agencies have proved the opposite. Joseph Kidwell when would Christians wake up from the delusion? Or is this just the way of the little horn? Ricky Grimsley

  • Ricky Grimsley
    Reply July 21, 2018

    Ricky Grimsley

    Russia isn’t the little horn

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 21, 2018

    Troy Day

    You know who I meant Ricky Grimsley It wasnt Russia either Joseph Kidwell Jimmy Humphrey @robert erwin Bob Wizenhut VP Pence visit to Lee University has unleashed an unseen storm of tornadoes over the area Who;s planing to go?

  • Hugh Lowrie
    Reply July 21, 2018

    Hugh Lowrie

    Troy Day – how was Helsinki a major fail. Trump has been harder on Russia than Obama ever was. And remember, Trump doesn’t negotiate in public with his enemies. Would you be happier if President Trump was doing things the lead to war instead of paving the way for peace. Many Christians applaud will applaud the new approach if it has better results than what the previous administration had.

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 21, 2018

    Troy Day

    Hugh how was it not? Even Fox admitted it to be so

  • Bob Wizenhut
    Reply July 21, 2018

    Bob Wizenhut

    Trump’s Critics Are Wrong, And Trump Had A Point

    After all the selective leaking to frame the Trump administration for obstruction, after a U.S. presidential campaign was spied on by the opposing Party’s administration, after years of botched or politicized intelligence assessments, after years of arming bad guys around the world, and after multiple revelations of spying on Journalists, Congress, and American citizens — of course it is appropriate to doubt the U.S. intelligence agencies.

    Yes, Russia meddled in our election. But the degree to which Russia interfered — and favored Trump — matters. This affects the Mueller investigation, the amount of power we give the intelligence community to combat this interference, and U.S. foreign policy with the world’s other preeminent nuclear power. And the degree to which Russia interfered is still open for debate.

    Increased tensions between the world’s two great nuclear powers isn’t something to be taken lightly. But why are many elected officials — especially Democrats — so against Trump sitting down for a chat with Putin? America needs Russian cooperation on North Korean sanctions, in just one example. And why do so many of our unelected officials and talking-heads, including those in the intelligence community, seem to have a problem with Trump trying to have better relations with Russia? Maybe there are budgets, think-tank positions, and even weapons-programs reliant on Russia being seen as a Cold War-era enemy.

    Here’s A Prediction

    Trump’s approval rating, after taking a slight hit, will rise after this summit. The more the Democrats howl about impeachment, the greater Republicans’ chances will be in the midterm elections (consider how Democrats led by Bill Clinton went from being projected to lose 20+ House seats to gaining seats in the late 1990s).

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 21, 2018

    Troy Day

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 22, 2018

    Troy Day

    Hugh Lowrie At the start of the week, President Donald Trump appeared to side with President Vladimir Putin against his own intelligence community over their assessment that Russia had interfered in the 2016 election.
    That day, Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats issued a statement saying the intelligence community stood by its original conclusions. A number of Republicans who had been supportive of the president – and some commentators on FOX News – vocally expressed their concerns.

    The next day, President Trump made an awkward retraction of his original claim in front of the cameras

    The day after that retraction, Aspen Security Forum opened with the FBI director on stage and the aftershocks of Helsinki still being felt.
    “My view has not changed, which is that Russia attempted to interfere with the last election and that it continues to engage in malign influence operations to this day,” said Christopher Wray.
    The FBI was involved in a huge range of activities around the country, he said, but acknowledged that the Washington political drama was what people were focused on.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44830012

  • Hugh Lowrie
    Reply July 22, 2018

    Hugh Lowrie

    The facts are that Trump is being much harder on Russia that Obama was. And I have no problem with our President being a bit skeptical of an intelligence community that swore that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and have been abusing their power trying to run President Trump out of office. When President Trump drains the swamp, and I expect he will, it will establish him in a category of greatness equal to Lincoln & Washington.

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 22, 2018

    Troy Day

    Hugh Lowrie I am surprised how disinformed you are with all the fake news out there. Even FoxNews which shows mainly bias admitted failure of international diplomacy standards in Helsinki

    • Hugh Lowrie
      Reply July 22, 2018

      Hugh Lowrie

      What, specifically, was the failure? What is this big thing i’ve missed?

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 22, 2018

      Troy Day

      How many times do I need to repeat it? re-Read

    • Hugh Lowrie
      Reply July 22, 2018

      Hugh Lowrie

      Is it because he is skeptical of our intelligence agencies. I think most Americans now realize they are corrupt and certainly not trust worthy.

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 22, 2018

      Troy Day

      Not sure what you are asking Hugh. This OP is about the justice who was appointed and what to expect

    • Hugh Lowrie
      Reply July 22, 2018

      Hugh Lowrie

      you said, “Helsinki was more of a historic moment for Russia
      Back to you Bob” but maybe in fact, Helsinki was a non-event except to the media.

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 22, 2018

      Troy Day

      Not me The BBC article and the Fox segments.

  • Hugh Lowrie
    Reply July 22, 2018

    Hugh Lowrie

    Troy Day – I still don’t understand your obsession with Helsinki. It has nothing to do with this article or theology.

  • Hugh Lowrie
    Reply July 23, 2018

    Hugh Lowrie

    Troy Day – You are what is known as a low information voter. When the national media gets excited about something and they all repeat the same sound bite, including FoxNews, you think there must be a problem. But the only thing we can know for sure, when all the media are saying the same thing, is that there is group think or there is someone orchestrating their stories. Like I said, we don’t know a thing about what was negotiated all we have is the media interpretations of the press conference. And I can also tell you that average Americans no long accept the press talking points like they once did. Average Americans realize that China is the bigger enemy and that we could use Russia’s help. The is no benefit gained by being rude to Putin in a press conference.

  • Bob Wizenhut
    Reply July 23, 2018

    Bob Wizenhut

    Troy Day – I’m not going to take the time to listen to the PR event from Helsinki since, like I’ve said, it wasn’t really a news worthy event. But I am curious what you think about the fact that NBC claims that the President’s poll numbers inched up last week after Helsinki. Is it because Americans approve of how the President is handling Russia or is it merely a backlash against the media claiming that the President is committing treason?

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 23, 2018

    Troy Day

    @bob check BBC, DW and other sources that ARE American allies and have every interest in America winning. Even Foxnews admitted defeat though Hugh remains faithful to the brain wash A basic level of international diplomacy and understanding how EU works is basic must 101 before someone dives into interpreting recent political events BUT this is not what this OP is all about

    NEW Justice was appointed
    What can we expect from this move?
    What was the end goal of the appointment

    – reversal of gay marriages ?
    – ban on the uni bath room issue?
    – allowing ministering to homosexuals purposing conversion?

    Would you please comment per OP?

  • Donald Phillips
    Reply July 23, 2018

    Donald Phillips

    I aint no prophet and I aint prophesying nothing but I pray that the new Supreme Court reverses the abortion decrees of the previous courts, that it does away with special rights for sexual perversions and that this causes revival in our land because it will either be a riot or a revival. I am praying for revival.

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 23, 2018

    Troy Day

    Donald I appreciate your remark and your pretty name. Everyone is free to think and elaborate on their thinking However, when ppl are brained washed you cant show em jack It’s just the way it is. America has been getting brain washed for some time now. Some ppl in this thread just cant think for themselves anymore

    IMHO more federal conservative justices need to be placed so the Christian church can put some pressure and bring the law back to God’s standards as prescribed in the Bible WILL this judge work toward that? Some countries in EU now say pedofiles are just born that way Joseph Kidwell Nelson Banuchi

    • Nelson Banuchi
      Reply July 23, 2018

      Nelson Banuchi

      I’ll go for more conservatives…

    • Joseph Kidwell
      Reply July 23, 2018

      Joseph Kidwell

      Revival is not the result of Supreme Court decisions or government action. The Bible says, “If My people which are called by My name……”

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 23, 2018

      Troy Day

      does IF MY ppl include the king too?

    • Joseph Kidwell
      Reply July 23, 2018

      Joseph Kidwell

      The King would need to be a child of God to be one of the Lord’s people. But I believe we can have revival, even if the King is evil.

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 23, 2018

      Troy Day

      Isiah ch 3 says children for kings

  • Scotty Searan
    Reply July 23, 2018

    Scotty Searan

    I just want the Supreme Court to go by the Constitution

  • Bob Wizenhut
    Reply July 23, 2018

    Bob Wizenhut

    Troy Day – What President wants is so basic I’m surprised it eludes you. President Trump wants to be known as the greatest President of all time. Not equal to Lincoln or Washington but flat out greatest. And to do that, the most important priority is being reelected.

    Everything needs to be viewed through that lens if you want to understand President Trump. How does he get reelected? By remaining popular with his base and increasing his popularity with Evangelicals. So what are the most important things to his base and to Evangelicals?

    The top thing for Evangelicals is judges. The top thing for his base in general is immigration. And important to both is keeping campaign promises. So while every other GOP President in recent history has walked away from campaign promises and become more moderate in their policies President Trump knows that this isn’t an option for him.

    So it only makes sense that President Trump would choose a judge from the list he promised during the campaign. But why Kavanagh? If you want to be remembered as a great President you want a judge that is young and enduring but also the judge that is the smartest that will become the dominant judge over the next couple of decades. Judge Kavanagh isn’t yet on the court yet he has already written 9 opinion that were adopted as the opinion of the court. President Trump wants the judge that Evangelicals will call the greatest judge of our generation.

    It’s as simple as that. It has nothing to do with abortion or marriage. Nothing.

    • Nelson Banuchi
      Reply July 23, 2018

      Nelson Banuchi

      Bob Wizenhut: “President Trump wants to be known as the greatest President of all time.”

      Well, that’s been obvious since he entered the campaign for POTUS and I don’t think that fact has eluded anybody… and that is the main problem with this overtly and overly narcissistic President!

      It’s really not his aim to MAGA but to MTGA.

      At least, you admit he cares more about himself than he does the American people who are merely the means to his own ends, to hell with America.

      You’re right, it’s not about abortion; never was. It’s not about what’s best for America; it never was.

      And, you support him! Which would only betray your attitude also… to MTGA is your priority.

      Well, at least, you admit it.

    • Gene Brown
      Reply July 23, 2018

      Gene Brown

      Great post!

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 24, 2018

      Troy Day

      Great words but non toward OP

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 24, 2018

    Troy Day

    Nelson Banuchi the basic question of the OP is how this justice would contribute to the whole thing? One bird cannot bring spring but is certainly a step in the right direction. How many such steps do we need and when can we see actual results? Joseph Kidwell

  • Joseph Kidwell
    Reply July 24, 2018

    Joseph Kidwell

    I oppose this nomination for the following reasons. Kavanaugh believes that the Constitution literally makes the President above the law. He does not believe that a sitting President can be subject to civil suits or criminal indictment. He has virtually an authoritarian view of the power of the Executive Branch and does not seem to believe in balance of power with the other two branches of government. He has consistently ruled against workers and for business.

    • Ricky Grimsley
      Reply July 24, 2018

      Ricky Grimsley

      I hope Kavanaugh gets blocked and Amy Barrett gets the nod.

    • Joseph Kidwell
      Reply July 24, 2018

      Joseph Kidwell

      That’s not going to happen. He will be approved by the Senate.

    • Ricky Grimsley
      Reply July 24, 2018

      Ricky Grimsley

      Perhaps. God knows. Maybe I can have Barrett when Ginsburg moves on to her eternal punishment.

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 24, 2018

      Troy Day

      I bet it will too Trump gets whatever he wants Most ppl still believe him. What will it happen when they stop believing ?

    • Donald Phillips
      Reply July 25, 2018

      Donald Phillips

      I never believed in Trump, but I certainly voted for him because the alternative was to vote for the total annihilation of Christian freedom of thought. He is a sinful man, but at least he hasn’t had any of his political opponents murdered as far as we know. The Clintons seem to have a way of “outliving” those people that attempt to expose them.

    • Ricky Grimsley
      Reply July 25, 2018

      Ricky Grimsley

      I may have to repent but I question the Christianity or at least the sanity of anyone who voted for Hillary

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 25, 2018

      Troy Day

      Kavanaugh believes the President is above the law

    • Joseph Kidwell
      Reply July 25, 2018

      Joseph Kidwell

      Ricky Grimsley, par for the course for you. You totally disregard the Scriptures and elevate your extreme right-wing thinking. You don’t sit on the throne and I don’t answer to you. You did not save me, sanctify me or fill me with the Holy Ghost. You don’t have a heaven to welcome me to or a hell to send me to.

    • Ricky Grimsley
      Reply July 25, 2018

      Ricky Grimsley

      A vote for a democrat is a vote for abortion, socialism, and a raping of the constitution. Again I left two options. Maybe your you are saved but your eyes are blind to the point of insanity. Most politicians are probably evil but socialism is of the devil.

    • Joseph Kidwell
      Reply July 26, 2018

      Joseph Kidwell

      A vote for a conservative is a vote to take healthcare away from folk. It’s a vote to further enrich the top 3% @ the expense of everyone else. Republican greed is of the devi.

    • Ricky Grimsley
      Reply July 26, 2018

      Ricky Grimsley

      Those are all liberal lies they tell themselves to sleep at night.

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 26, 2018

      Troy Day

      What has been the Trump care healthcare plan so far Ricky Grimsley 0 to none

    • Ricky Grimsley
      Reply July 26, 2018

      Ricky Grimsley

      The best health care plan is get people jobs and let them take care of theirselves. Many people don’t have health care because they are greedy or because they are lazy.

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 26, 2018

      Troy Day

      Most dont because they cant afford it. Neither jobs nor freedom to chose is there no more

    • Joseph Kidwell
      Reply July 26, 2018

      Joseph Kidwell

      Ricky Grimsley, once again, you demonstrate your ignorance. 60% of people on Medicaid work. They just don’t have health coverage through their employer.#TypicalRightWingIgnorance

    • Joseph Kidwell
      Reply July 26, 2018

      Joseph Kidwell

      Because of right-wing ‘trickle down’ economics, the 3 richest Americans own as much wealth as the bottom 50% of Americans. Income disparity continues to grow and many who used to be middle class are now part of the working poor.#Facts

    • Ricky Grimsley
      Reply July 26, 2018

      Ricky Grimsley

      Lol I’m not ignorant at all. If your job doesn’t provide you what you need you switch jobs are you get two. I did it. Put my wife through college. It can be done. Who’s fault is it when you don’t eat?

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 26, 2018

      Troy Day

      There are not many such jobs Ricky Hence the health care crises in America today

    • Ricky Grimsley
      Reply July 26, 2018

      Ricky Grimsley

      Maybe you have to work two jobs. Maybe people have to have for faith. People need to prioritize and maybe be more healthy. Sure there are people that need help. It should people people that can work. Oh yeah….if there aren’t any jobs in your area……move. That’s the way all people and animals have survived since creation.

    • Joseph Kidwell
      Reply July 26, 2018

      Joseph Kidwell

      Ricky Grimsley, many work 2 jobs, but still are in poverty. I know because you are talking about some of my church members. Troy is right. You have no comprehension of the seriousness of this issue. You obviously believe that health care is a privilege. I believe that to be an immoral position and it’s amazing that a Christian who claims to be pro-life would hold such a view. You are not pro-life. You are just anti-abortion and for you, being pro-life stops when the child is delivered because you don’t give a rat’s backside if that child has what he needs to eat and drink or whether that child has access to health care. You despise the very people who received Jesus gladly as well as the children that Christ took time out to minister to.

    • Ricky Grimsley
      Reply July 26, 2018

      Ricky Grimsley

      Nonsense. Obvious I care about people. But continually giving out hand outs isn’t the answer. Universal health care would destroy our economy. Any idiot knows that. It was already severely impacted because of the stupid obama care.

    • Ricky Grimsley
      Reply July 26, 2018

      Ricky Grimsley

      Lol we can’t even keep the veterans in some decent healthcare and you want to spread that over the whole US. No thanks. Move to Canada. You are probably liberal enough to preach up there

    • Joseph Kidwell
      Reply July 26, 2018

      Joseph Kidwell

      Ricky Grimsley, the ACA was no handout! Requiring folk to buy health care is no different than requiring folk to have auto insurance. Universal health care has not destroyed Western Europe or Canada. I’ve heard the testimonies of lives who have been saved because of the ACA. But, your concern for folk’s lives stop when they are born. Your views have resulted in the countless deaths of many human beings. It’s hypocritical for you to claim to be pro-life.

    • Joseph Kidwell
      Reply July 26, 2018

      Joseph Kidwell

      Ricky Grimsley, no sir! I’m scriptural and truly pro-life. You have no concern for your fellow man and certainly don’t love your neighbor as yourself. You may have extreme right-wing views, but you are not right. You lack compassion, empathy and love. You certainly do not reflect the values of the Kingdom of God or the love of the Lord Jesus Christ.

    • Ricky Grimsley
      Reply July 26, 2018

      Ricky Grimsley

      It was unconstitutional

  • Ricky Grimsley
    Reply July 26, 2018

    Ricky Grimsley

    Yay free health care for all and free abortion in demand….sounds like the kingdom of God to me. Lol.

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 26, 2018

    Troy Day

    Free health care at least is very biblical The leaves of Tree of Life are free, right?

  • Joseph Kidwell
    Reply July 26, 2018

    Joseph Kidwell

    Ricky Grimsley, not according to the Supreme Court.

  • Joseph Kidwell
    Reply July 26, 2018

    Joseph Kidwell

    Ricky Grimsley, the ACA does not cover abortion.#RightWingIgnorance

  • Joseph Kidwell
    Reply July 26, 2018

    Joseph Kidwell

    Ricky Grimsley, health care is not free anywhere.#RightWingIgnorance

  • Donald Phillips
    Reply July 28, 2018

    Donald Phillips

    The ACA does not cover people that have jobs. The ACA does not cover our veterans. The ACA does not cover MY kids. The ACA is a huge weight on the middle class so freeloaders and foreigners can have free healthcare.

  • Joseph Kidwell
    Reply July 28, 2018

    Joseph Kidwell

    Donald Phillips, the ACA does not provide free health care except for those who are extremely poor who are covered by Medicaid expansion. You would prefer that they just die I guess. That is certainly pro-life, isn’t it?#RightWingHypocrisy

  • Bob Wizenhut
    Reply July 29, 2018

    Bob Wizenhut

    President Trump is already see results from Helsinki! Troy Day

    • Bob Wizenhut
      Reply July 29, 2018

      Bob Wizenhut

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 29, 2018

      Troy Day

      List them for us pls

    • Bob Wizenhut
      Reply July 29, 2018

      Bob Wizenhut

      Polls show his approval ratings are up since Helsinki. Of course, we can talk about what he has gained for America as well.

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 29, 2018

      Troy Day

      You are quoting the liberal Gallup and CNBC now? According to a Washington Post/ABC News poll published on Sunday, almost a third of Republicans disapproved of Trump publicly expressing doubts about U.S. intelligence findings. By recent standards, that’s a significant defection from the pro-Trump line.

    • Jan Dixon Sykes
      Reply July 29, 2018

      Jan Dixon Sykes

      From what I was told, they talked about working together against jihadism. Is that not a good thing?

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 29, 2018

      Troy Day

      How can we comment about hearsay?

    • Jan Dixon Sykes
      Reply July 29, 2018

      Jan Dixon Sykes

      Well, you can refrain from bashing the meeting. That’s be a good start. As for our intelligence?

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 29, 2018

      Troy Day

      No bashing Just discussing the information made public and relating it to OP – thats all

    • Jan Dixon Sykes
      Reply July 29, 2018

      Jan Dixon Sykes

      There’s a difference between doubting our intelligence agencies when we are overseas and bashing AMERICA when we are overseas. Notice the word “America.”

    • Jan Dixon Sykes
      Reply July 29, 2018

      Jan Dixon Sykes

      Why did you delete my other memes. They were true, too.

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 29, 2018

      Troy Day

      ??? as much as facebook allows I guess

    • Jan Dixon Sykes
      Reply July 29, 2018

      Jan Dixon Sykes

      FB keeps deleting them. Guess the NSA doesn’t like them.

    • Jan Dixon Sykes
      Reply July 29, 2018

      Jan Dixon Sykes

    • Bob Wizenhut
      Reply July 29, 2018

      Bob Wizenhut

      Troy Day – polls show the since Helsinki, President Trump has a higher approval rating among the GOP than either Bush or Reagan. I’m starting to think you were right about there being significance in what happened at Helsinki. And the new polls were taken before the 4.1 GDP growth and Europe capitulating on trade. But I guess Helsinki played a role in that capitulation.

    • Jan Dixon Sykes
      Reply July 29, 2018

      Jan Dixon Sykes

      The more the MSM bashes Trump, the more I am certain he is doing exactly what I voted for him to do. Taking a wrecking ball to the latest version of the globalist’s Tower of Babel.

    • Bob Wizenhut
      Reply July 29, 2018

      Bob Wizenhut

      Jan Dixon Sykes – so you are OK with the President draining the swamp and cleaning up corruption in the FBI, IRS and intelligence agencies? You are OK with the President returning our country to law and order and following the Constitution?

    • Jan Dixon Sykes
      Reply July 29, 2018

      Jan Dixon Sykes

      Gee, let me think about it…. Well, maybe if he threw in lowering my taxes….

    • Bob Wizenhut
      Reply July 29, 2018

      Bob Wizenhut

      But what if it comes at a cost? Like also bringing free trade with Europe, peace with North Korea and record unemployment for Black America?

    • Jan Dixon Sykes
      Reply July 29, 2018

      Jan Dixon Sykes

      You mean like I haven’t evicted a single black man this whole year? (Anyone for that matter.) And I have to endure listening to them raving about the new FULL time job they just got? Now, that is a burden. But I guess I can bear it….

    • Bob Wizenhut
      Reply July 29, 2018

      Bob Wizenhut

      But Troy Day has a point. All of this comes at a huge cost. After Helsinki we’ll experience an improved relationship with Russia and have more of their cooperation on Syria & Iran. For war dogs, this is an unacceptable price to pay.

    • Jan Dixon Sykes
      Reply July 30, 2018

      Jan Dixon Sykes

      Ya know, I’m now convicted about being so selfish. Not having to pay the lawyer $450 for another eviction. Getting a tax cut. I really need to be grateful instead about all those soldiers getting raises and the vets who were stuck using UncleSamCare can now get vouchers to go to private doctors….

  • Jan Dixon Sykes
    Reply July 29, 2018

    Jan Dixon Sykes

    I have never read more judgmentalism from a pastor in my life. Joseph seems to know that Ricky doesn’t give a rat’s backside about children and despises people! Plus, Ricky lacks compassion, empathy, & love! Wow! …………. Joseph, we get to judge behaviors but not people. Going from I don’t like your decisions and behaviors is a long ways to judging people. You don’t get to assign motives. God know our hearts. Not you. You guys obviously disagree about solutions to problems—period. Shaming someone is a tactic of the devil, which is what you are using. “There is therefore now condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus.” So stop with the condemning words. JESUS said, “Judge not that ye be not judged.”

  • Ricky Grimsley
    Reply July 29, 2018

    Ricky Grimsley

    I don’t lack compassion. I just disagree in what the real issues are. People have to take responsibility for theirselves. Grow up people. You can judge all you want but liberalism and socialism is inconsistent with jesus

  • Joseph Kidwell
    Reply July 29, 2018

    Joseph Kidwell

    Jan Dixon Sykes, R yea but Ricky can question my Christian faith because I don’t believe that it is being consistently pro-life to allow folk to die simply because they are not well off enough to have decent health insurance? Jan Dixon Sykes, you and the rest of your Trump cult do not intimidate me. Quite frankly, I really don’t care what you think of me. Talk to the other cult members about their false accusations.

  • Joseph Kidwell
    Reply July 29, 2018

    Joseph Kidwell

    Ricky Grimsley, letting poor children go without needed health care and allowing people to die simply because they don’t have good health insurance is inconsistent with Jesus. Being a follower of Trump is inconsistent with Scripture.

  • Ricky Grimsley
    Reply July 29, 2018

    Ricky Grimsley

    Acts 23:5 KJVS
    [5] Then said Paul, I wist not, brethren, that he was the high priest: for it is written, Thou shalt not speak evil of the ruler of thy people.

  • Jan Dixon Sykes
    Reply July 29, 2018

    Jan Dixon Sykes

    Joseph, if you don’t care what we think of you, then please know we care even less what you think of us, so you can spare yourself the effort of telling us your unwelcome opinion. ……. You come into this forum wearing your holier-than-thou garment, claiming to care more than us, being more righteous than us—while God just sees your righteousness as filthy rags. So spare us the virtue signaling, please. Can you not just present your solutions without throwing in shaming statements? ……. As for Ricky, is he a pastor, too? Pastors have to maintain higher standards of conduct than laymen. I’m a mere laymen & can debate a topic without calling a person name, such as “cult members.”

  • Ricky Grimsley
    Reply July 29, 2018

    Ricky Grimsley

    I’m not a pastor. But I’m not sure what higher standards you are talking about. I have to live the truth like everyone else. Stealing from people isn’t the answer. Universal healthcare is a fraud.

  • Jan Dixon Sykes
    Reply July 29, 2018

    Jan Dixon Sykes

    Joseph was claiming I had a double standard of not letting him get away with judging, when I didn’t include your name in the mix. You had questioned whether anyone who voted for Hillary was a Christian. But you had preferences it with humiliy—saying you might have to repent. Yes, James says, “Brethren, Be not many masters, knowing that we receive greater condemnation.” So yep, I‘m chiding Joseph more for judging than you, Ricky. Especially since you did not accuse him of lacking compassion, empathy, and love.

  • Ricky Grimsley
    Reply July 29, 2018

    Ricky Grimsley

    I’m sure Joseph has compassion. However, he is blind

  • Jan Dixon Sykes
    Reply July 29, 2018

    Jan Dixon Sykes

    Revelation 12 calls SATAN “the accuser of our brethren.” Anyone REALLY want to be in that camp?? Accusing any of us as not having enough compassion, empathy, or love!?! Having a mistaken solution is one thing, but not having compassion is a whole nother category.

  • Joseph Kidwell
    Reply July 29, 2018

    Joseph Kidwell

    Jan Dixon Sykes, LOL!

  • Joseph Kidwell
    Reply July 29, 2018

    Joseph Kidwell

    Ricky Grimsley, says the man who follows a blind man?#TrumpCult

  • Ricky Grimsley
    Reply July 29, 2018

    Ricky Grimsley

    I don’t “follow” trump. I do however celebrate the positive and don’t over blow the negative

  • Jan Dixon Sykes
    Reply July 29, 2018

    Jan Dixon Sykes

    Laugh my comment away all you want, Joseph. “Accusing the brethren” is reprehensible to me, which is why I keep bringing what you do up. You’re plenty smart enough to argue your case without stooping to character assassination.

  • Ricky Grimsley
    Reply July 29, 2018

    Ricky Grimsley

    Character assassination is all liberals have because their arguments are nonsense

  • Jan Dixon Sykes
    Reply July 29, 2018

    Jan Dixon Sykes

    Joseph, I am a senior citizen. Rather than using the tactic of entreating me, you use sneering me as a cult member. I see you went to CBC. I went to Evangel.

  • Joseph Kidwell
    Reply July 29, 2018

    Joseph Kidwell

    Jan Dixon SykesROTFLOL!!!#TrumpCult

  • Jan Dixon Sykes
    Reply July 30, 2018

    Jan Dixon Sykes

    See you’re still using scorn….

  • Troy Day
    Reply July 30, 2018

    Troy Day

    Bob Wizenhut this OP is not about Helsinki How do you feel your claims relate to the justice choice? Will same sex marriages be reverted?

    • Bob Wizenhut
      Reply July 30, 2018

      Bob Wizenhut

      I still fail to see why you turned the discussion on this OP into a discussion on Helsinki. That discussion clearly doesn’t relate to theology in any way but it was more of a statement on your willing to jump on the bandwagon of whatever the talking point of the day was with the press. We’ve already established that the Supreme Court pick has nothing to do with marriage or abortion.

    • Troy Day
      Reply July 30, 2018

      Troy Day

      Actually you turned it into Helsinki. I simply mentioned the timing of placing the justice in question and the Helsinki failure You use #strawman a lot Pls re-read

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