Do you have to know the demon’s name?

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Do you have to know the demon’s name in order to cast it out? 

Glynn Brown [08/14/2015 9:03 AM]
No.in fact some claim that it prolongs the exorcism

John Kissinger [08/14/2015 9:11 AM]
This is interesting. Can you copy a link to read more about it? I’ve read that it speeds it up. Without a name you’re just guessing

Joe Collins [08/14/2015 11:21 AM]
No. I’m cast many demons out without knowing their names.

God didn’t try to talk to them when he and the disciples casted them out, so why should i?

John Kissinger [08/14/2015 11:22 AM]
So how does this go practically? I cast out demon of … ?!?

Joe Collins [08/14/2015 11:23 AM]
Also knowing it’s name doesn’t stop it from doing anything in the future. Its only the power of the blood that has anything to do with it.

Thinking that knowing it’s name to stop it in the future is a form of witchcraft in which they believe that by knowing it’s name it They have the ability to control it

Joe Collins [08/14/2015 11:25 AM]
You don’t. I can see that you haven’t casted any demons out of anyone yet?

Its really simple. You make sure you are living right and prayed up. Then you demand the demon to leave in the name of Jesus.

It then leaves.

John Kissinger [08/14/2015 11:26 AM]
🙂 been doing it 25yrs. but so much for your gift of discernment

Joe Collins [08/14/2015 11:26 AM]
Where is this picture from, by the way?

56 Comments

  • Troy Day
    Reply September 25, 2018

    Troy Day

    oh thats just wrong Ray E Horton Robert Borders

  • RichardAnna Boyce
    Reply September 25, 2018

    RichardAnna Boyce

    all you need is to preach believe in Jesus as your personal Savior to be guaranteed eternal life, and when person believes in the GOOD NEWS the demon cant live in same body as Holy Spirit

    • Troy Day
      Reply September 25, 2018

      Troy Day

      says who? Robert Borders

    • Link Hudson
      Reply September 25, 2018

      Link Hudson

      I do not agree. I believe we need to preach the Gospel as described in the Bible, which includes the death of Christ and His resurrection. This seems a minority view among Pentecsotals if we go only by the content of sermons and altar calls these days.

      Can there be sin in the same body as the Holy Spirit? Can a Christian sin?

    • Robert Borders
      Reply September 25, 2018

      Robert Borders

      The vast majority of deliverance ministries work with Christians. There are several churches that practice mass deliverance at each service.

    • Troy Day
      Reply September 26, 2018

      Troy Day

      namely?

    • RichardAnna Boyce
      Reply September 26, 2018

      RichardAnna Boyce

      Robert Borders surely believers are already delivered the moment they are born again and receive Holy Spirit, as demons cant live in same body as HS.

    • Troy Day
      Reply September 26, 2018

      Troy Day

      several churches that practice mass deliverance
      which ones exactly? Robert Borders

    • Robert Borders
      Reply September 26, 2018

      Robert Borders

      RichardAnna Boyce I don’t want to argue and typically would never refer who a person who needed deliverance to a traditional Pentecostal church or pastor due to that reasoning. I have referred a lot of people to Catholic and Mennonite deliverance ministers so that people can get help.

    • Robert Borders
      Reply September 26, 2018

      Robert Borders

      Troy Day I can think of the church in Hammond, IN and a large church in Chicago as two of the better known churches that provide sacks to attendees to barf up demons. I used to see a lot of mass deliverance meetings in the 1970s with teachers such as Don Basham and Derek Prince.

    • Link Hudson
      Reply September 26, 2018

      Link Hudson

      Robert Borders The idea that demons come out with vomit, and then offering comit bags can set people up to vomit without anything supernatural going on. The word for ‘spirit’ means ‘wind.’ I’m glad people who cast out evil spirits/winds haven’t made a doctrine out of the ‘evil wind’ thing.

      I’d imagine the vomit deliverance meetings stink. Can you imagine what an evil wind deliverance meeting would smell like?

      I suppose vomiting can be more easily induced psychologically or by smelling other people doing it than the wind thing. They’d have to eat beans or cabbage or something.

    • RichardAnna Boyce
      Reply September 26, 2018

      RichardAnna Boyce

      Robert Borders surely we refer demonised to Jesus who delivers them when they are born again?

  • Troy Day
    Reply September 25, 2018

    Troy Day

    I think we’ve shared with Link Hudson and Robert Borders stories of missionaries where God revealed to them the names

    • Tim Dalton
      Reply September 26, 2018

      Tim Dalton

      Troy are you upset that I kept to scriptural integrity about all the speculations over the word of wisdom. I will keep to scriptural integrity with this passage as well — 32 Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you. Ephesians 4 – May the Lord richly bless you

    • Troy Day
      Reply September 26, 2018

      Troy Day

      Why would anyone be upset if you really kept the Scripture? Have you ever seen Word of Wisdom operating?

    • Tim Dalton
      Reply September 26, 2018

      Tim Dalton

      Troy Day – well the way you spoke about me for one. Some people, when corrected, hold grudges instead of handling things like a christian should. It is just pride. I was seeing if you had something against me? – Reread what I wrote about not having a definition. Perhaps you can give a scriptural definition on the word of wisdom and not just wisdom. The word of wisdom as mentioned in 1 Corinthians is what I think we are discussing.

    • Tim Dalton
      Reply September 26, 2018

      Tim Dalton

      here is what I can tell about the word of wisdom using the bible as the source. 1 Cor. 12:8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;—-1. The Spirit gives this gift out. 2 We know it is a Godly gift and is real. 3. We know the Spirit gives it out to people . So it is a real gift. I just don’t see the scripture detailing what it is. Thus it is open to human assumption, guesswork, conjecture. That often leads to error.

    • Troy Day
      Reply September 26, 2018

      Troy Day

      So are you saying you’ve seen it in action?

    • Tim Dalton
      Reply September 26, 2018

      Tim Dalton

      Troy Day – Now why would I say that if I told you that it isn’t defined. Read my conclusions and don’t put words in my mouth. God bless.

    • Troy Day
      Reply September 26, 2018

      Troy Day

      how is asking a question putting words in your mouth? you dont portray good Christian character here

  • Isara Mo
    Reply September 26, 2018

    Isara Mo

    It is important to know the name(s) of the demon for it will give you the ” personality” of the dude…especially when the devil refuses to live..depart from ” his” house.
    It is more effective and practical to address the demon by ” name” during deliverance rarher than cast out them blindly…
    We all.know that they are ” unclean” spirits but i think when we address them.by names…(and they have names really) we become more precise.
    In normal life if you find a group of ten people lets say ten men and you shout at them ” hey men” you wont get a good response compared to when you call out a specific name eg ” Hey Mr .Troy…”

  • Troy Day
    Reply September 26, 2018

    Troy Day

    Isara have you seen word of wisdom in action?

    • Isara Mo
      Reply September 26, 2018

      Isara Mo

      Troy i have seen it but i have some reservations about the ” spirits” behind these words of wisdom..
      Divulging of hidden information or facts is an area which the devil is also an expert especially where divination is concerned: the duviding line is so thin.
      I know and have witnessed GENUINE word of wisdom in action and in fact i have personally (on a few occasions ” seen it” in action during deliverance…
      May i ask why do you ask that

    • Isara Mo
      Reply September 26, 2018

      Isara Mo

      Isara Mo Yes, God can reveal sth hidden to his servant but He also wants the servant to LEARN some things by himself.
      Jesus was fully man and fully God and there are numerous examples whereby in His ministry He used word of wisdom but in many instances Jesus asked questions from those he was ministering to get information.
      He used the word of wisdom during his encounter with the Samaritan woman (about her five husbands) but he used normal interogation to get the names of the demons at the Gadarenes.

    • Troy Day
      Reply September 26, 2018

      Troy Day

      Thank you for your sharing

  • Troy Day
    Reply September 27, 2018

    Troy Day

    when calling someone out sure helps to call them out by name Robert Borders Link Hudson has called it tagging 🙂

    • Link Hudson
      Reply September 27, 2018

      Link Hudson

      It’s a bit annoying at times on a thread that doesn’t interest an individual. But let’s say you had posted against spousal abuse, and I wrote, “Men should not beat their wives Troy Day” to get your attention to join the thread, people might get the wrong idea.

      I didn’t invent the ‘tagging’ terminology. If that isn’t Facebook’s term for it, other people use it.

    • Troy Day
      Reply September 27, 2018

      Troy Day

      Demons have to be called out though they may be annoyed. Jesus did not care very much about annoying them but did send them into the pigs It;’s in the HOLY BIBLE

  • Louise Cummings
    Reply September 27, 2018

    Louise Cummings

    No Matthew 17:18–a man’s son was an epileptic. Often fall into the fire and often into water. The disciples couldn’t cure him. They brought him to Jesus. AndJesus rebuked the demon , and it came out.

    • Troy Day
      Reply September 27, 2018

      Troy Day

      yes JESUS knew how to call the demon out

  • Louise Cummings
    Reply September 27, 2018

    Louise Cummings

    I wasn’t finished. It posted. I can’t find where I was writing. In Mark 5: 9- verse 8, Jesus said to him , Come outof the man, unclean spirit!! Then He ask him,What is your name? And he answered , saying , My name is Legion, for we are many. (I gave one occasion where Jesus didn’t ask the name. And one. Where Jesus did ask the name. Although they are not typed together , like I meant for it to be. My phones a little. It jumps. I couldn’t find where I wrote the first one.
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    • Troy Day
      Reply September 27, 2018

      Troy Day

      Jesus called him by the name “unclean spirit”

    • Louise Cummings
      Reply September 27, 2018

      Louise Cummings

      In Mark 5:8. He said unclean spirit. All demons are unclean. I wouldn’t call that being a name. He didn’t ask his name I Mark 5;8–9. In verse 9. He ask his name. In verse 8!! He just said unclean spirit, come out of the man. I would have thought all demons was unclean. But He am His Name in verse 9!!

    • Louise Cummings
      Reply September 27, 2018

      Louise Cummings

      In Matthew 17:18. The first one I answered. It says Jesus rebuked the demon. And it came out. That is where I said Jesus didn’t ask a name. The Bible said Jesus rebuked the demon and it came out the same hour. Maybe Jesus always called the name but in this place it doesn’t sound like. It sounded like they already what was wrong with him.

    • Louise Cummings
      Reply September 27, 2018

      Louise Cummings

      I will listen to some else after this. But I would think you would have to call them a foul Spirit or unclean spirit. To cast them out. My opinion. I need to hear your thoughts or someone’s on this.

  • Joe Absher
    Reply September 27, 2018

    Joe Absher

    I thank you for this question. I’ve been thinking on this very thing. We had quite the case on the street Saturday. Some good preaching broke him up pretty good. He was really out of it. He was just released from some hospital. A brother spoke with and bought him something to eat. Another brother took him down the “Romans road” o believe he was sincere. Then he layed down and started manifesting rage and something very ungodly. Another brother tried to get a name. He got “Jehosaphat” so I don’t think that was very helpful. His wristband said Merlin which wasn’t very helpful either. I think it was a fake name. Devils are known liars anyhow.
    But we broke the power of the devil in Jesus name. It was kind obvious drugs were involved so that’s witchcraft, the occult, one young brother first time preaching just went after it and wouldn’t stop. Maybe there was a half dozen Christian’s praying by now. Everybody was done and pretty tired but everybody stuck with it. Even your’s truly. After about a half hour he popped out of it and says “I feel so free” so we got him to start calling on Jesus his mercy to save and mighty power to heal and deliver. I can’t tell you the specifis anymore than that. But I think it was the the brother that wouldn’t quit. He must have been a bapticostal you know how they get with they get the holy ghost. But I believe he was genuinely saved. We’ll have to follow up of course. Some one knows where lives.
    I don’t think this answers the question but maybe it will help. Just keep praying and don’t quit, like Jesus taught in the story “Importunate Widow” that would be my best advice.

  • Troy Day
    Reply September 27, 2018

    Troy Day

    Joe Absher maybe time to put that reference list out after all

    • Joe Absher
      Reply September 28, 2018

      Joe Absher

      Divine appointment. Met with the brother he’s into some heavey things but I believe the Lord will continue his good work in the heart and mind of this man. Jesus is mighty to save.

    • Troy Day
      Reply September 30, 2018

      Troy Day

      what about divine disappointment?

    • Joe Absher
      Reply September 30, 2018

      Joe Absher

      God afflicts a man according to his need

  • Joe Absher
    Reply September 27, 2018

    Joe Absher

    You mean verses?

  • Joe Absher
    Reply September 27, 2018

    Joe Absher

    Luke 10:1 KJV — After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.

    The best I know is Luke. Deliverance isn’t just for the apostles but for the discples also. First the twelve then the 70.

  • Troy Day
    Reply September 27, 2018

    Troy Day

    I meant the list of deliverance prayers Joe Absher Now Robert Borders I have not followed much of Don Basham but Derek Prince is spot on on most of his stuff. If you mean Win Worley he is great; John’s church however is not that big anymore Oh well… 🙂

  • Joe Absher
    Reply September 27, 2018

    Joe Absher

    “Help me Jesus” is my favorite.

  • Troy Day
    Reply September 28, 2018

    Troy Day

    It’s all about becoming a people of God

  • Joe Absher
    Reply September 28, 2018

    Joe Absher

    Jesus paid a great price, an awful beating, a painful death. but he got it done. It is finished. My Redeemer lives! O glory

    • Troy Day
      Reply September 30, 2018

      Troy Day

      He sure did Does this mean there is a need to know the demons name when casting it out?

    • Joe Absher
      Reply September 30, 2018

      Joe Absher

      Are people getting free? Free to pray and worship and believe in Jesus Christ. The Saviour.

    • Troy Day
      Reply October 1, 2018

      Troy Day

      So do you have to know or you dont have to know?

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Do you have to know the demon’s name?

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Do you have to know the demon’s name in order to cast it out? #ourCOG

Do you have to know the demon's name in order to cast it out? #ourCOG

Glynn Brown [08/14/2015 9:03 AM]
No.in fact some claim that it prolongs the exorcism

John Kissinger [08/14/2015 9:11 AM]
This is interesting. Can you copy a link to read more about it? I’ve read that it speeds it up. Without a name you’re just guessing

Joe Collins [08/14/2015 11:21 AM]
No. I’m cast many demons out without knowing their names.

God didn’t try to talk to them when he and the disciples casted them out, so why should i?

John Kissinger [08/14/2015 11:22 AM]
So how does this go practically? I cast out demon of … ?!?

Joe Collins [08/14/2015 11:23 AM]
Also knowing it’s name doesn’t stop it from doing anything in the future. Its only the power of the blood that has anything to do with it.

Thinking that knowing it’s name to stop it in the future is a form of witchcraft in which they believe that by knowing it’s name it They have the ability to control it

Joe Collins [08/14/2015 11:25 AM]
You don’t. I can see that you haven’t casted any demons out of anyone yet?

Its really simple. You make sure you are living right and prayed up. Then you demand the demon to leave in the name of Jesus.

It then leaves.

John Kissinger [08/14/2015 11:26 AM]
🙂 been doing it 25yrs. but so much for your gift of discernment

Joe Collins [08/14/2015 11:26 AM]
Where is this picture from, by the way?

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