Arminianism is not Pelagianism No true Bible scholar believes they are the same
[Semi-Pelagianism] While not denying the necessity of Grace for salvation, Semi-Pelagianism maintains that the first steps towards the Christian life are ordinarily taken by the human will and that Grace supervened only later.
[Arminianism] In contrast to semi-pelagianism, Arminianism teaches that the first steps of grace are taken by God. This teaching derives from the Remonstrance of 1610, a codification of the teachings of Jacob Arminius (1559-1609).
Jimmy Humphrey [12/22/2015 5:55 AM]
The charge of “Semi-pelagianism” is simply a tired slur of reformed theologians living in the past and battling ghosts that mostly don’t exist anymore.
John Kissinger [12/22/2015 5:57 AM]
Calvinators know that well but they still repeat it like there’s no tomorrow Charles Page http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/why-am-i-not-a-calvinist/
Jimmy Humphrey [12/22/2015 6:01 AM]
They must parrot it because that’s all reformed theologians tend to do. Their theological system is so enclosed upon a certain line of reasoning that they become absolutely dependent on reciting it over and over again. It’s a strange addiction to a language, without which their views could not exist.
Jimmy Humphrey [12/22/2015 6:03 AM]
It must hurt their hearts so much when they read the apostle Paul and never find him tossing down the same language they do
John Kissinger [12/22/2015 6:03 AM]
after all if you are predestined to parrot – you parrot!
Jimmy Humphrey [12/22/2015 6:05 AM]
I find it funny, reformed theologians insist on sola fide, but they don’t even believe a man is justified by faith in their ordo salutos. They believe a man is justified by election. “Faith” then becomes a mere item on a checklist, instead of something by which you become saved.
John Kissinger [12/22/2015 6:07 AM]
no true Calvinator has a problem with Steve Harvey moderating God’s final judgement! Charles Page
Ricky Grimsley [12/22/2015 7:02 AM]
I cant believe that the argument between calvanism and armenianism still rages on. They are both full of flaws.
Jimmy Humphrey [12/22/2015 7:52 AM]
The truth is unless you are preaching something that sounds a little bit like both, you probably aren’t preaching as you should 🙂
John Kissinger [12/22/2015 7:57 AM]
or not preaching at all 🙂
Timothy D McCune [12/22/2015 10:12 AM]
IN order for a man/woman to be saved they must heed the call of salvation from God. Where does the confusion come in?
Ricky Grimsley [12/22/2015 10:40 AM]
I think the confusion comes from people’s desire to abdicate their responsibilities. Both calvanism and armenianism teach that God exhaustively knows the future. Whether by decree or by knowing the future as a settled fact, the outcome is the same. At the basest level you have no choices and therefore arent responsible because (God already knows or he made me that way) arguments. I think most people live as open-theists even though in their minds they think calvin or armenianism. Otherwise prayer is nonsense. So are all the concepts of an emotional, loving, and wise God. Calvanism and armenianism both have scriptures they basically disregard.