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Win Worley claims
Ermar Reyes Luna Win Worley claims that churches that do not practice casting out of demons are out of balance in their ministry. And…
The Devilish Side of Sex
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The Bible Truth About Demons in Christians?
“In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,…
Varnel Watson
Here’s the list Joseph D. Absher We;ve discussed some of these before with Robert Borders to some extent of course
Joseph D. Absher
Nahh there’s no way a Christian can have a demon. A demon can have a Christian though…
Anonymous
this makes absolutely no sense.
William Rotach
This makes no sense and is a play on words. Fact is Christians can be influenced and possessed if they open their minds. Man is body soul and spirit. Possession is in the mind and body not the spirit
Joseph D. Absher
Thank you
Varnel Watson
That’s pretty pretty bad
Dan Irving
If a church has “Christians” in it with “demons,” its because the Gospel is not preached there, and the Holy Spirit is not present.
Varnel Watson
Deliverance is not practiced in full would be my guess
Dan Irving
What deliverance? Where the Holy Spirit is present, demons are not, or quickly so.
Varnel Watson
The deliverance mentioned in Mt 28 and Mk 16 Most churches practice the Great Omission instead of the Great Comission People are tempted in many areas today
Joseph D. Absher
If you can’t face God you won’t be able to face men. If you can’t face sin you won’t be able to face the devil. To be bold with men comes from boldness with God. And that friends is by the blood of Christ. When Jesus grants access to the throne of God, the courts of men and their hollow judgments loose all their power.
Varnel Watson
one thing I;ve noticed that any time deliverance prayers are promoted demons get pretty furious against true Christians And not just deliverance sermons or sermons about deliverance ministry and so on general talk BUT specific prayers, directions and tools Christians can use in demonic warfare – they get pretty furious
Dan Irving
I see a peculiar dichotomy in this concept of Deliverance. Yes, there are some that seem to have a gift of deliverance. Even the apostate seem to have this gift. Most deliverance ministries I have seen NEVER preach the Gospel, although they use the name of Jesus Christ. But there is another form of deliverance that I believe superior. And that, is simply belonging to an assembly where the Holy Spirit is present and the name of Jesus Christ is lifted up. Demons cannot freely associate or hide there. And there, the deliverance is secured.
Varnel Watson
Dan Irving I offer the following perspective for considerations. So basic verse light cannot with darkness, Jesus with Satan and so on
We clearly see a legion of demons in the presence of Christ The Greek explains it clearly IMO http://probible.net/luke-827/
Paul L. King
Troy Day, I have been preoccupied with my wife in the hospital the last two days with a possible stroke. But she is doing well, with no stroke symptoms remaining. I have taught Spiritual Warfare and Deliverance at the doctoral levels. I highly recommend Neil Anderson’s Bondage Breaker/Freedom in Christ/Truth Encounter approach. I will respond with more later.
Varnel Watson
Praying for you and yours Dr King Keep us posted
Joseph D. Absher
I’ve started with the interview of Niel Anderson, author of “bondage breaker” seems very reasonable to me. He says “We give satan an opportunity to shipwreck our lives when we have unforgiveness”
William Rotach
I am all in favor of casting out demons. But I have noticed that many times the so called deliverance ministers do not have the faith or power of God behind them so when nothing happens they blame the victim that they are supposedly trying to help
Robert Borders
unfortunately I have met many who were traumatized by mishandling in church.
Varnel Watson
Car crashes are not reason to stop driving cars. Just a reason to make them safer
Paul L. King
From my book God’s Healing Arsenal: Levels of demonic influence and involvement
Paul L. King
Level 1 Wrong Thoughts (2 Corinthians 10:5)
Level 2 Imaginations (2 Corinthians 10:4)
Level 3 Action (James 1:15)
Level 4 Continued Sin (produces ungodly habits, which opens up a doorway) (John 5:14)
Level 5 Loss of Sensitivity to the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 4:30; 1 Thessalonians 5:19)
Level 6 Demonic Influence (Ephesians 4:27)
Level 7 Deception (Romans 1:21-22; 1 John 1:8)
Level 8 Oppression (2 Peter 2:19-20)
Level 9 Obsession/Compulsion (John 13:27)
Level 10 Demonic Control (Matthew 27:5)
Problems with the demonic (unless generational or due to a trauma) often begin with our mind—wrong thoughts. That is why it is crucial to bring every thought captive to the obedience of Christ. Wrong thoughts then lead to unsanctified imaginations, which in turn lead to wrong actions, and so on and on down the spiral. Levels 1-8 can usually be taken care of through prayer, truth encounter, rebuke, and binding spirits. Levels 8-10 may indicate that demonic spirits have enlodged themselves deeply and thus may need to be cast out.
Copyright Paul King 2011
Paul L. King
Peter uses the exact same language in Greek as Jesus to describe demonic bondage of a believers as the casting out of demons generically: DEMONIC BONDAGE OF A BELIEVER
Compare 2 Peter 2:18-20 with Matthew 12:43-45
(Peter describes a believer’s bondage
in the precise words that Jesus describes
an unbeliever’s demonic bondage)
Matthew 12:43-45 2 Peter 2:18-20
Unclean spirit is gone Escaped pollutions of world
Demon returns with entangled again and overcome
seven more wicked (enslaved)
and dwell there
“The last state (ta “The last state (ta eschata has
eschata) of that man become (gegonen—from becomes (ginetai— ginomai) worse (cheironafor
from ginomai) worse them than the firsttōn
(cheirona) than the prōtōn).”
first (tōn prōtōn).”
Copyright Paul King 2011
Paul L. King
Demonic depression of believers Ananias & Sapphira: Demonic Degression of Ananias and Sapphira
(Acts 5:1-11)
Desire for self, greed, appearances of good
(wrong thoughts and imaginations)
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Conceived deed in heart
(wrong imaginations)
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Holding back a portion, lying to Holy Spirit
(wrong actions)
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Lack of ongoing admission and repentance
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Justification of wrong—hold back a portion for self
(Desensitization of spiritual awareness)
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Deception
(Satan filled heart to lie to Holy Spirit)
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Oppression/Obsession/Compulsion
(heart filled by Satan, agreeing to deceive)
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Demonic control
(Satan seeks to steal, kill, and destroy—John 10:10—they died on spot)
Paul L. King
ILLOGICAL SYLLOGISTIC REASONING
Major Premise: Every Christian is indwelt by
the Holy Spirit
Minor Premise: The Holy Spirit cannot dwell
with demons.
Conclusion: Christians cannot have demons.
Major Premise: Every Christian is indwelt by the Holy Spirit.
Minor Premise: The Holy Spirit cannot dwell with sin.
Conclusion: Christians cannot sin.
Varnel Watson
Thank you We were just sorting through this line of questions for a separate post with Joseph D. Absher We will have to group them together for a longer discussion Great questions
Joseph D. Absher
Well we don’t want sin or the devil but he’s tricky and sin is deceitful. Gotta get under the blood of lamb and lean wholly on Jesus Christ. He knows best.
Paul L. King
Woman Bound by Satan–Luke 13:11-17
Varnel Watson
Bound while under OT covenant if we may add.